Military Submariner on Ebay

[Dannyy]

Just incase anyone is looking for a Military Sub, there is one on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123

*I have no connection to the sale, just info for anyone that wants one.

[Quicksilver]

Seen the price

[Yume-sama]

I didn't know the military paid so well!

[Dannyy]

It started at £499 I thought my luck was in!...its still "cheap" for a mil sub at the mo

[SLS]

Wow, he has some heavy hitters interested in that watch now!
~Scott

[joeyk]

shocking price :(

[Time Traveller]

Damn! Everything is perfect about it! Except the price that is.

[Letsgodiving]

Found at the bottom of Portland Harbour on a dive according to the previous owner. Nice find. Looks like James Dowling is interested.

[marke]

i have bid 20000 for it but i think it will sell for at least 40000

marke

[Dannyy]

My guess is £50K+

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by marke

i have bid 20000 for it but i think it will sell for at least 40000

marke

Good luck if you are going to bid again. If you do get it - post pics

[marke]

i would love to own a 5517 but at the sort of price this will go for i could buy 5 or six other vintage pieces, so would rather wait and see.

on a mission to find another vintage piece this weekend,,,, watch this space

marke

[mailman]

In the first pic it looks like the hands don't match the dial either. Could be the way the pic was taken

[trek]

Bidding has ended for this item. Last question for this watch on ebay was from someone wanting to meet up with the seller at Rolex London St James. To confirm that it is real by a technician. His offer was for £115,000

[toph]

what happened- it has been ended - and read the sellers update? mmmmm

[Letsgodiving]

Isn't 115,000 pounds beyond reason for this watch? The owner seems to be surprised by the offers.

Although there does appear to be some heavy hitters that are interested in this one so maybe there is some merit behind it.

[Terry Newton]

Error in listing and it has been re-listed:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=160293076858

For the price it should have some pictures of the insides and some papers to ease the anxiety of the sticker shock.

Terry Newton

[YuppieKid]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

I didn't know the military paid so well!

[bodybump]

Originally Posted by Time Traveller

Damn! Everything is perfect about it! Except the price that is.

its going to be pricey on ebay...They charge very high final value fee...and if you use pay pal..there is another 3% fee...so imagine if you have a very expensive item to sell...fee's aloone can got to $300-500

[marke]

the watch has been relisted, and is at the price of £35000 i think it has a long way to go yet...

marke

[Spark]

I'm not questioning the credentials of the watch or the seller, but I am not happy with those hands.
They are very green???
If I were going to buy a Mil-Sub I'd want it all to match at the money they go for.
I have always been told to buy the best you can and that just isn't the best IMO.


Also I noticed the seller says he went to Bexley and they would not provide provenence for the watch.
I have seen letters from Rolex UK in the past supporting watches issued to the military etc... so they do? (I believe John has one with his)
He obviously asked the wrong questions if he asked at all.

[marke]

but you could have quite a few more vintage pieces for the cost of the mil sub...

marke

[Spark]

Originally Posted by marke

but you could have quite a few more vintage pieces for the cost of the mil sub...

marke

I was offered a 5517 with full provenence for £8750 4 years ago and I told the bloke he was living in cloud cockoo land if he thought he would get that sort of money for a Sub.
Now I realise it was me who was cockoo for not buying it

[marke]

ouch thats a painful kick in the tablets,,,,,

i wa the same with a zenith daytona, when i purchased my first sub the dealer offered me a daytona and i replied sorry i dont like it,,,, waht a muppet, I paid £ 1389 for the sub.... and the daytona was something like 2120.00

have kicked my self ever since

marke

[kingblackbolt]

Still no bids!

[Time Traveller]

Originally Posted by Spark

I was offered a 5517 with full provenence for £8750 4 years ago and I told the bloke he was living in cloud cockoo land if he thought he would get that sort of money for a Sub.
Now I realise it was me who was cockoo for not buying it

We all make mistakes. Well, not as bad as that.

[argee1977]

Since it's been relisted i've lost a bit of confidence in the seller due to the following points:

1 - He now states 'it was handed down to me' instead of the original 'found at the bottom of Portland harbour'.

2 - He went to Rolex in Bexley and they said they wouldn't issue a certificate of authenticity, well i've seen a couple come from there which is an official letter stating when and where the Rolex was originally sent too.

3 - He won't send it to Bexley to get a £300 service for more authenticity as it takes 8 weeks.

4 - He cancelled the last auction at 35k and started again, he seems to be chasing the money or looking for something outwith ebay.


From my own personal opinion i just don't see these watches as anything special, yes they may have been used by the Royal Navy divers, but what does that mean, i work in this field and know a fair few navy divers and specialist navy divers and they're now issued suunto watches now, are these going to be worth 50k in 30 years time?

[Spark]

Originally Posted by argee1977

Since it's been relisted i've lost a bit of confidence in the seller due to the following points:

1 - He now states 'it was handed down to me' instead of the original 'found at the bottom of Portland harbour'.

2 - He went to Rolex in Bexley and they said they wouldn't issue a certificate of authenticity, well i've seen a couple come from there which is an official letter stating when and where the Rolex was originally sent too.

3 - He won't send it to Bexley to get a £300 service for more authenticity as it takes 8 weeks.

4 - He cancelled the last auction at 35k and started again, he seems to be chasing the money or looking for something outwith ebay.


From my own personal opinion i just don't see these watches as anything special, yes they may have been used by the Royal Navy divers, but what does that mean, i work in this field and know a fair few navy divers and specialist navy divers and they're now issued suunto watches now, are these going to be worth 50k in 30 years time?

Ryan,
I understand where you're coming from, but they are from Rolex's tool watch age an age which will never be seen again.
Rolex history was being made and the rarer the issue the more a collector will pay to add it to their collection.
Like Comex Subs and Red Subs and Red SD's and Double Red SD's and and and and .
This model Sub was the only model Sub that had a bezel with full 60 minute segmentation, it is the only Sub not to have Mercedes hands it is the only sub you can't fit a bracelet to as it has fixed lugs.
They are as rare as rocking horse sh*t compared to most other watches and some also saw service which gives them a special something.
I would never pay £50,000 for a Submariner in normal circumstances as I don't even earn that a year, but if I were minted I would consider it, if it was missing from my collection and it fitted.

That said I wouldn't buy this one as I previously posted, and no there will not be any Navy issue watch from now on ever to be worth £50,000 unless a one off solid Gold Submariner is issued to Prince William who then becomes a Navy Diver clearing minefields in the gulf wears it all the time gets a bit skint and lists it on eBay

[argee1977]

Originally Posted by Spark

Ryan,
I understand where you're coming from, but they are from Rolex's tool watch age an age which will never be seen again.
Rolex history was being made and the rarer the issue the more a collector will pay to add it to their collection.
Like Comex Subs and Red Subs and Red SD's and Double Red SD's and and and and .
This model Sub was the only model Sub that had a bezel with full 60 minute segmentation, it is the only Sub not to have Mercedes hands it is the only sub you can't fit a bracelet to as it has fixed lugs.
They are as rare as rocking horse sh*t compared to most other watches and some also saw service which gives them a special something.
I would never pay £50,000 for a Submariner in normal circumstances as I don't even earn that a year, but if I were minted I would consider it if it was missing from my collection and it fitted.

That said I wouldn't buy this one as I previously posted, and no there will not be any Navy issue watch from now on ever to be worth £50,000 unless a one off sold Gold Submariner is issued to Prince William who then becomes a Navy Diver clearing minefields in the gulf wears it all the time gets a bit skint and lists it on eBay

Damn, i was going to order a couple of the suunto's off the system and store them for the future

[Spark]

Originally Posted by argee1977

Damn, i was going to order a couple of the suunto's off the system and store them for the future

Well it might be worth a punt anyway.
Worse case is you have a couple of unusual curtain tie backs if you can't get batteries for them in 30 years time