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don't kill me, please
I have been following this forum for ages and have written quite a few times. Last year I fell in love with Rolex and bought myself the GMT IIc. All the watches I have ever owned have been at least 42 mm and finally Rolex came out with the GMT IIc which has a bigger appearance becaquse of the ceramic dial. A couple of months later I purchased the SS daytona hoping that it would knock me over like my first rolex; however it didn't and has been in my safe untouched. I just couldn't get myself to wear such an expensive watch unless I was truly taken with it. I have now the opportunity to trade it with a Panerai luminor 8 days (brand new.) I love that Panerai and it has an in house movement. Are they really that good or are they extremely over priced? Even though I don't wear it I still love the SS Daytona as it is one of the finest watches ever made. I don't mind keeping it until someday it winks at me just the right way. But then I couldn't get the panerai. What should I do???
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There's no use in having it if you;re scared to wear it. Get a watch you will wear and enjoy, dadgummit!
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the question is whether that specific panerai is comparable to the daytona in quality or is it just a hyped up watch.
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Go for the watch you want, i have to say that's a great choice you have there, the P2002 is a lovely looking movement that i've not heard a bad word about, is it the PAM233 you're looking at or a radomir?
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Do watchuwannado!
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Hey Oak:
I completely understand where you are coming from. Once you own and wear a GMT IIc..........no other watch will satisfy you in the same way. |
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Wear and enjoy the watch.
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I don't think you can make a judgement untill you start wearing the Daytona for a bit. It needs to "grow on you". Try it out - you may very quickly fall in love with it and that will make up your mind.
If after wearing that Daytona the Panni calls you more then go for it - but give the Daytona more of a trial. You owe it to yourself.
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This Daytona only costs $2k more than the GMTIIc - don't put it on a pedestal. If you like the Pan - get it! No sense in keeping a Daytona just to have a Daytona.
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pam233. Guys, please give me real honest and knowledgeable opinions
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Never lock a beautiful woman away.
Nothing quite like the magic that descends when you wear a Daytona. |
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If the Daytona doesn't do anything for you, then go with what does...life is too short and money is too scarce.
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can't see whether it has a c.o.s.c. certificate
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I can give you a personal opinion: Rolex Daytona - I don't really like them, no date function is a deal killer for me, the gain in price is just too much for my liking lately but they do hold their value, some of the models can be difficult to read due to the dial colours and size, but then again this may be different to others. They are well made and one of the most recognisable chronos out there. Panerai - Looks nice, large on the wrist, very clear to read and well made, but dear god where did these prices come from, this watch is up there with some serious big hitters pricewise and would be about 4th on my list at this price range. I prefer the titanium or ceramic cases, the SS is something i'm not too partial on either but again others love the clean look. This may have the date function but loses the chrono features. I do like the display casebacks though, seeing the movement on expensive watches is nice as they're works of art. So in reality my point of view isn't really worthwhile to yourself, but i try to show some of the positives and negatives, but then again one mans positive is another mans negative.
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WatchTime has reviewed the 233 -- it can be found in the magazine archive. Based upon the current Panerai price list from Sept 2008, the PAM233 is retailing for $14700, which is almost $5000 above the retail for the SS Daytona. If you were lucky enough to buy your Daytona at msrp, then this trade would net you an extra $5k. Meaning, if you trade and you don't like the PAM233, you could sell it for nearly the list price and still buy back your Daytona and have some cash left over -- assuming you could get the Daytona again at msrp.
I've always appreciated Panerai as a cult brand but I still can't get myself to pay $15000 for the 233 or $17000 for the 270. I have both the SS Daytona and the SS GMTIIc and I love both. I do agree with you that the Daytona is much more valuable and I don't get to wear it as much but I love my Daytona and I could never part with it. I would rather trade my GMTIIc + some cash to get the PAM before I gave up my Daytona. GMTIIc aren't that hard to get and you don't have to jump through any hoops to get one. So, my opinion is to get rid of the GMTIIc and try out the PAM. |
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could you post the link to the watchtime review please?
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You have a PM
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Give it to me i'll keep in in my safe for awhile..
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Always get the one you want. No watch has a lock on everyone.
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I think the Daytona is totally over rated.
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I'd keep the Daytona!
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I'd do that trade...assuming it's a straight trade. If you're having to add cash, then it would depend entirely on how much $ you're being asked to kick in.
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Alo, aver! Mahneeshma?
Keep the Daytona--it is a better watch. |
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Well, I have both 233 and SS daytona white dial. I love both watches. It is hard to say which one I love more. Both watches give me different feeling when it is on my wrist. It depends on the way you dress and mood for that day. Are there anyone get the same feeling?
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The Panerai 8-days is a very handsome watch, but so is the Daytona. I think they serve slightly different niches - the Daytona has probably more universal appeal and can serve as a dress watch while the Panerai would be more suited to lovers of big, chunky watches.
As for the movements, the Daytona houses Rolex's in-house manufacture, which is very highly regarded and is possibly an improvement on the previous El Primero (purchased from Zenith). The 8-day in the meantime, contains one of Panerai's inhouse movements and looks very attractive through the open caseback. I'm not sure whether they operate in the same price bracket all over the world because grey market premia might vary among countries. A friend of mine in Singapore has just bought a pre-owned 8-days, paying S$16,000 or about US$11,000, which is roughly the same as for a pre-owned S/S Daytona. Hope this helps! ![]() |
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I guess I was in similar situation maybe a month ago but I didn't have SS daytona and I was looking to get one. However, I didn't want to wait to get the watch and i needed to save money since I just purchased M Sub/Date. However, someone told me about PAM and I really liked it. (I wanted either 112 or 111, i like simple one) I almost bought it from my AD but backed out after I saw IWC Portugese 7 days. So, I'm saving for IWC Por
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