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PeterT · 14 December 2008, 04:20 AM

Hi,
In the UK there do not seem to be any of the GMT II classics with the 3186 movement and the M serial number.

What do you think of this, something looks a bit fishy to me, especially the model number!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-GMT-Mast...1%7C240%3A1318

PeterT

Tools · 14 December 2008, 05:16 AM

I would think that the 16710LN would mean a black insert..

And, there is nothing to indicate that this M model would have a 3186; however, I don't see anything that would indicate the watch is not authentic..

Welshwatchman · 14 December 2008, 05:27 AM

The 116710 warranty card is for a Ceramic GMT so I would be very wary of the seller's intentions.

It may be a genuine mistake on their behalf but I personally would pass.

Welshwatchman · 14 December 2008, 05:29 AM

Also he has just two feedbacks.

One is from a 0 rated Ebayer, no longer registered with Ebay.

The other is from a 2 rated Ebayer, one of his feedback stating "It's a fraud. I never received the item, and I still wait to have my money back"

PeterT · 14 December 2008, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

The 116710 warranty card is for a Ceramic GMT

Bingo!!

Also has anyone seen a serial number for an M serial GMT with so high a number!

PeterT

TimeToGo · 14 December 2008, 08:23 AM

There is actually a GMT M-Serial for sale on our site with a high number..

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=60577

Terry Newton · 14 December 2008, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

The 116710 warranty card is for a Ceramic GMT so I would be very wary of the seller's intentions.

It may be a genuine mistake on their behalf but I personally would pass.

The warranty card is definitely from a ceramic GMT IIc watch. There is also no reserve on this sale with only 2 days left to go. It looks like it is a staged sale with the correct box, booklet, warranty card for a GMT IIc though there are no papers showing. This smells funny.

Terry Newton

2careless · 14 December 2008, 09:43 AM

The seller listed his address as:
89 WILLIAM BONNEY ESTATE
london, London
SW4 7JF
United Kingdom

What is that? no street address? I did some google and it's actually around Clapham Common. Meh, I used to live around there!

tudorman8276 · 14 December 2008, 11:02 AM

...did it again....G O N E Rzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Stan.

PeterT · 14 December 2008, 07:10 PM

That's good, swindling so and so!!

PeterT

Z-Sub · 15 December 2008, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

There is actually a GMT M-Serial for sale on our site with a high number..

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=60577

I have been thinking about his for a couple of days since this post came out. I have never seen one classic GMT with that high serial number, only M3's.

stusrt · 15 December 2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

There is actually a GMT M-Serial for sale on our site with a high number..

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=60577

hi,
new to the forum, as I have started researching to buy a GMT
I was looking very hard at the one posted here. I had not thought of how a older style case could have a such a high M serial number.
what is everyone's thoughts about this GMT for sale? Fishy?
thanks
stusrt

14 December 2008, 04:20 AM	#1
PeterT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England Watch: 16613 16710 16600 Posts: 1,021	First GMT II to hit the UK with 3186 movement? Hi, In the UK there do not seem to be any of the GMT II classics with the 3186 movement and the M serial number. What do you think of this, something looks a bit fishy to me, especially the model number!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rolex-GMT-Mast...1%7C240%3A1318 PeterT

14 December 2008, 05:16 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,351	I would think that the 16710LN would mean a black insert.. And, there is nothing to indicate that this M model would have a 3186; however, I don't see anything that would indicate the watch is not authentic.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

14 December 2008, 05:27 AM	#3
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	The 116710 warranty card is for a Ceramic GMT so I would be very wary of the seller's intentions. It may be a genuine mistake on their behalf but I personally would pass. __________________ ..33

14 December 2008, 05:29 AM	#4
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Also he has just two feedbacks. One is from a 0 rated Ebayer, no longer registered with Ebay. The other is from a 2 rated Ebayer, one of his feedback stating "It's a fraud. I never received the item, and I still wait to have my money back" __________________ ..33

14 December 2008, 11:02 AM	#9
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...lady CASPER... ...did it again....G O N E Rzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Stan.

14 December 2008, 08:23 AM	#6
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,674	There is actually a GMT M-Serial for sale on our site with a high number.. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=60577

14 December 2008, 09:43 AM	#8
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	The seller listed his address as: 89 WILLIAM BONNEY ESTATE london, London SW4 7JF United Kingdom What is that? no street address? I did some google and it's actually around Clapham Common. Meh, I used to live around there!

14 December 2008, 07:10 PM	#10
PeterT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England Watch: 16613 16710 16600 Posts: 1,021	That's good, swindling so and so!! PeterT

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