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kinggiamma · 3 July 2018, 12:25 AM

Hello everybody.

I'm a long time reader and first time writer here on the forum.
I would like to get your impression on the following:

would you trade a 1994 Submariner date ref 16610 tritium dial that is not in ideal conditions with a brand new Explorer.

I have been asked by the shop add 1.9K€ to close the deal as my submariner comes without box nor papers and is with Rolex service case ( serial 444XXXX), service bezel and service second hand.

What would you do?

thanks for the answers.

REFZ · 3 July 2018, 12:56 AM

I don't think I would do it but to be sure I would like to see the condition of your Submariner.
Do you have some pictures of your Submariner?

doramas · 3 July 2018, 02:09 AM

Do you have some pictures ?

Iron swan · 3 July 2018, 02:37 AM

Hard to say without seeing the watch.
If I had to guess- they'll probably break about even watch for watch, and that 1.9k will mostly be profit/pocketed.

How much do you want to get rid of that sub? How much do you want that explorer? If you really want that explorer... I'd try to get them down to +1k€

Nandor · 3 July 2018, 03:56 AM

If it is within your means I would keep it and buy the explorer! I have been loving my X1 I picked up a few weeks ago!

jimcameron · 3 July 2018, 04:10 AM

I would say it is a decent trade-in offer, if the Explorer is the watch you would prefer. I don't believe that you are improving your overall watch "collection" or making any type of potential profit from the deal. When was the last time your Sub was serviced. Since service on a Sub is around $1000usd these days, I would consider that in the trade.

kinggiamma · 3 July 2018, 05:17 AM

Thanks all for the interesting inputs...here some pictures of the watch:

rolex1 rev.jpg

Rolex 4 rev1.jpg

rolex 3 rev1.jpg

rolex 2 rev1.jpg

kinggiamma · 3 July 2018, 11:06 PM

What do you think after seeing the pictures?

Vlad the Impaler 007 · 3 July 2018, 11:15 PM

Your sub is in much better condition than you give yourself credit for. 1,900 extra to trade it for an explorer seems like too much to me.

rushca01 · 3 July 2018, 11:29 PM

That sub looks pristine and unpolished. I would not trade that for a any explorer. Do you have box and papers for it?? DONT TRADE IT!

kinggiamma · 5 July 2018, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushca01

That sub looks pristine and unpolished. I would not trade that for a any explorer. Do you have box and papers for it?? DONT TRADE IT!

Unfortunately, even if I serviced the watch a couple of months ago by my ( non Rolex) trusted watch repair shop the issues are that I do not have anymore the box and papers, the case is rolex service supply and not the initial one and glass, second hand and bezel has been changed ( glass with third party spare)...

2nastie · 5 July 2018, 06:01 AM

At 1.9K difference I would not do that trade.

The lack of box and paper's requested / noted by the shop is ridiculous. Given its an early 90's watch and frankly pre-2000s watch almost 99% of the time there would not be any of these items. Sames goes for 100% original pieces. The fact the shop suggested no box and papers would mean they are valuing the item less than what market would be. Frankly its the opposite; the market expectation is no box and papers. If those items are provide, it is worth more than typical market conditions.

Pass on the deal bud.

J_1964 · 5 July 2018, 06:19 AM

Keep The Iconic Sub Regardless.

dubins930 · 5 July 2018, 06:25 AM

Absolutely not, you could sell the sub and buy the explorer outright. Yes I would take the Explorer over the Sub, but theres no way I'm adding money instead of just selling it to buy the other watch.

Nikrnic · 5 July 2018, 08:27 AM

If you want a new Rolex do it But your getting low balled on your trade, shop around more or sell yours outright.

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abozz · 5 July 2018, 08:55 AM

Is beauty for me your 16610, keep it.

Bxtek · 5 July 2018, 09:10 AM

For me, it would be a definite "no" since I like your Sub more than the Explorer. Having to put money on top of the deal too makes it additionally less appealing. That's just my 2 cents.

OTOH, if the Explorer is a watch that you really like and have been really wanting, I'd say go for it. I'm on board with others though and if you can do it, try to buy the new watch and keep the Sub too. If you must sell, I would sell the Sub outright to maximize the return. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

3 July 2018, 12:25 AM	#1
kinggiamma "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Italy Posts: 131	Introduction and first question on Explorer Hello everybody. I'm a long time reader and first time writer here on the forum. I would like to get your impression on the following: would you trade a 1994 Submariner date ref 16610 tritium dial that is not in ideal conditions with a brand new Explorer. I have been asked by the shop add 1.9K€ to close the deal as my submariner comes without box nor papers and is with Rolex service case ( serial 444XXXX), service bezel and service second hand. What would you do? thanks for the answers.

3 July 2018, 12:56 AM	#2
REFZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Martin Location: Netherlands Watch: The Rolex Way Posts: 1,471	I don't think I would do it but to be sure I would like to see the condition of your Submariner. Do you have some pictures of your Submariner? __________________ 114060 - 116520 - 126334

3 July 2018, 02:09 AM	#3
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Do you have some pictures ?

3 July 2018, 02:37 AM	#4
Iron swan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Atlanta Posts: 16	Hard to say without seeing the watch. If I had to guess- they'll probably break about even watch for watch, and that 1.9k will mostly be profit/pocketed. How much do you want to get rid of that sub? How much do you want that explorer? If you really want that explorer... I'd try to get them down to +1k€

3 July 2018, 03:56 AM	#5
Nandor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Nandor Location: San Diego Posts: 100	If it is within your means I would keep it and buy the explorer! I have been loving my X1 I picked up a few weeks ago!

3 July 2018, 04:10 AM	#6
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	I would say it is a decent trade-in offer, if the Explorer is the watch you would prefer. I don't believe that you are improving your overall watch "collection" or making any type of potential profit from the deal. When was the last time your Sub was serviced. Since service on a Sub is around $1000usd these days, I would consider that in the trade.

3 July 2018, 05:17 AM	#7
kinggiamma "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Italy Posts: 131	Thanks all for the interesting inputs...here some pictures of the watch: rolex1 rev.jpg Rolex 4 rev1.jpg rolex 3 rev1.jpg rolex 2 rev1.jpg

3 July 2018, 11:06 PM	#8
kinggiamma "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Italy Posts: 131	What do you think after seeing the pictures?

3 July 2018, 11:15 PM	#9
Vlad the Impaler 007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Transylvania Posts: 42	Your sub is in much better condition than you give yourself credit for. 1,900 extra to trade it for an explorer seems like too much to me.

3 July 2018, 11:29 PM	#10
rushca01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Indiana Watch: GMT BLRO Posts: 1,750	That sub looks pristine and unpolished. I would not trade that for a any explorer. Do you have box and papers for it?? DONT TRADE IT!

5 July 2018, 06:01 AM	#12
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	At 1.9K difference I would not do that trade. The lack of box and paper's requested / noted by the shop is ridiculous. Given its an early 90's watch and frankly pre-2000s watch almost 99% of the time there would not be any of these items. Sames goes for 100% original pieces. The fact the shop suggested no box and papers would mean they are valuing the item less than what market would be. Frankly its the opposite; the market expectation is no box and papers. If those items are provide, it is worth more than typical market conditions. Pass on the deal bud.

5 July 2018, 06:19 AM	#13
J_1964 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Jim Location: NoCal USA Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,955	Keep The Iconic Sub Regardless.

5 July 2018, 06:25 AM	#14
dubins930 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Aaron Location: WA Posts: 836	Absolutely not, you could sell the sub and buy the explorer outright. Yes I would take the Explorer over the Sub, but theres no way I'm adding money instead of just selling it to buy the other watch.

5 July 2018, 08:27 AM	#15
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	If you want a new Rolex do it But your getting low balled on your trade, shop around more or sell yours outright. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

5 July 2018, 08:55 AM	#16
abozz "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In my home. Watch: 116660, 126600 Posts: 2,905	Is beauty for me your 16610, keep it.

5 July 2018, 09:10 AM	#17
Bxtek "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: CA Posts: 2,549	For me, it would be a definite "no" since I like your Sub more than the Explorer. Having to put money on top of the deal too makes it additionally less appealing. That's just my 2 cents. OTOH, if the Explorer is a watch that you really like and have been really wanting, I'd say go for it. I'm on board with others though and if you can do it, try to buy the new watch and keep the Sub too. If you must sell, I would sell the Sub outright to maximize the return. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

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