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Richard6xdx · 3 October 2018, 03:36 AM

I got an offer to trade my PAM 423 with 3 bands for 2015 Mint White Explorer II full box and papers. What do you guys think.

rolexinfl · 3 October 2018, 03:40 AM

Of course, Rolex over Panerai any day of the week.

beshannon · 3 October 2018, 03:40 AM

I would but only because I have zero interest in Panerai.

I do not have any idea about relative values.

ian.thomas · 3 October 2018, 03:54 AM

Hard call ... the 423 is a nice watch, although I wish it didn't state "power reserve" on the dial. But Rolex is the biggest offender of text on a dial, so there's that.

Can you get the EII and keep the 423, at least for a little while? It would be nice to try before trading in your PAM.

If I had to make a decision it would be trade the PAM for the EII.

Richard6xdx · 3 October 2018, 04:44 AM

Too many watches. This would basically move me to all Rolex. JC, SD43, White Skydweller and Exp II. I am next on the list to get a Blue SD, so I would most likely get rid of the white one and keep the blue once its in .

Daryl · 3 October 2018, 05:06 AM

Hi buddy, both are nice watches. But I'm leaning towards the exp 2 polar. It might be my next one.

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Cru Jones · 3 October 2018, 05:08 AM

It’s a fair trade... if you want to change things up, why not.

hhtwaijri · 3 October 2018, 07:42 AM

Exp ii.

Most underrated Rolex. I love it.

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Nikrnic · 3 October 2018, 11:35 AM

The enabler in me says "DO IT"

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vman · 3 October 2018, 12:21 PM

Do it. Panerai craze is over. Would love to love the brand again, but they are milking inventing their history while producing only okay watches/movements.

joli160 · 3 October 2018, 06:15 PM

Quickly before he changes his mind

danwang0520 · 3 October 2018, 06:21 PM

i would make the trade........

Double Barrel · 3 October 2018, 07:22 PM

I don't like Panerai so i would do the trade

ColnagoC60 · 3 October 2018, 07:27 PM

I have a PAM 111 and an Exp2 42mm Polar.

I would do the trade.

I still like Panerai as a brand as well as its history but they seem to have lost their way. And well, tastes towards large watches have changed too.

Doubt you will regret doing the trade.

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doramas · 3 October 2018, 07:46 PM

Yes. Always

Starwalker · 3 October 2018, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard6xdx

Too many watches. This would basically move me to all Rolex. JC, SD43, White Skydweller and Exp II. I am next on the list to get a Blue SD, so I would most likely get rid of the white one and keep the blue once its in .

I wouldn't do it. It's better to have the variety of different brands. If the 423 isn't singing to you anymore, trade it for a different brand - JLC, GO, GS, BP...

DLRIDES · 3 October 2018, 09:09 PM

While the Pam is valued slightly higher (asking), they are toxic to sell. I would definitely trade, and if you don’t “connect” with the EXP, flip it easily ...........

1William · 3 October 2018, 09:10 PM

Run, don't walk to do this trade. The trade value of your Panerai is sub 5k. Just send a TS a note and see what they say for trade value. Most will not take it. I am a huge Panerai fan and own a 422 but would do this trade all day long.

ian.thomas · 4 October 2018, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DLRIDES

... they are toxic to sell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1William

Run, don't walk to do this trade. The trade value of your Panerai is sub 5k. Just send a TS a note and see what they say for trade value. Most will not take it.

Has the Panerai market really become this bad? I sold all of mine (5-total) in 2005-2006, but I didn't know the bottom dropped out that bad.

scombs263 · 4 October 2018, 08:51 AM

I love Panerai, sold my only one recently to fund a Rolex. I would do the deal, go get another Panerai later, much easier to get.

Fleetlord · 4 October 2018, 11:28 AM

Is this a straight trade or is there a cash top up?

t65tampa · 4 October 2018, 11:31 AM

Do it. The Rolex will treat you right over the long run.

Brian Page · 4 October 2018, 11:37 AM

I would do this, I've had a number of Panerai and gone through that craze, you have a chance to get out and own a far superior watch in my opinion. EXPII is one of my favorites!

Fleetlord · 4 October 2018, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian.thomas

Has the Panerai market really become this bad? I sold all of mine (5-total) in 2005-2006, but I didn't know the bottom dropped out that bad.

Unfortunately yes.

Panerai has overproduced, exorbitantly priced and under-designed itself right into the doghouse with watch buyers.

Luxury buyers hate that $hi7 and they will make the manufacture pay DEARLY for those mistakes..mainly by ignoring them..

ColnagoC60 · 4 October 2018, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Unfortunately yes.

Panerai has overproduced, exorbitantly priced and under-designed itself right into the doghouse with watch buyers.

Luxury buyers hate that $hi7 and they will make the manufacture pay DEARLY for those mistakes..mainly by ignoring them..

Sad but true. I went to a grey a few weeks ago with my 2015 PAM111 to see if they’d be interested in it. One of the last produced runs of what was for a long time one of the iconic references. He offered 50% less than what I paid new. I said I’ll think about it as I don’t really need the funds now and this piece has some sentimental value to it.

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Richard6xdx · 8 October 2018, 05:12 AM

He changed his mind He is now at 800 cash plus my PAM . I am still undecided. Its a one hour drive, He also wants me to drive to him. I am still considering it

Chknight706 · 8 October 2018, 05:29 AM

Both move slow when reselling. That’s a tough one...

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Brian Page · 8 October 2018, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Unfortunately yes.

Panerai has overproduced, exorbitantly priced and under-designed itself right into the doghouse with watch buyers.

Luxury buyers hate that $hi7 and they will make the manufacture pay DEARLY for those mistakes..mainly by ignoring them..

Panerai has suffered enormous bloating, too many references, no real direction, goes on and on and on.. This comes from a former paneristi for sure. The brand is fractured for sure. In my opinion of course... :)

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Daytonaman799 · 8 October 2018, 05:40 AM

No comparison between the two...Exp II all the way

ap1 · 8 October 2018, 07:34 AM

Yeah I’d do that trade

3 October 2018, 03:36 AM	#1
Richard6xdx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: California Posts: 568	Considering Trading my PAM 423 2015 for a White Explorer II 42mm I got an offer to trade my PAM 423 with 3 bands for 2015 Mint White Explorer II full box and papers. What do you guys think.

3 October 2018, 03:40 AM	#3
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	I would but only because I have zero interest in Panerai. I do not have any idea about relative values. __________________ Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

3 October 2018, 03:54 AM	#4
ian.thomas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,337	Hard call ... the 423 is a nice watch, although I wish it didn't state "power reserve" on the dial. But Rolex is the biggest offender of text on a dial, so there's that. Can you get the EII and keep the 423, at least for a little while? It would be nice to try before trading in your PAM. If I had to make a decision it would be trade the PAM for the EII. __________________ You're asking me how a watch works. For now, let’s just keep an eye on the time.

3 October 2018, 05:06 AM	#6
Daryl 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Posts: 3,397	Hi buddy, both are nice watches. But I'm leaning towards the exp 2 polar. It might be my next one. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk __________________ 2FA-Enabled Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

3 October 2018, 12:21 PM	#10
vman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Capt Swerve Location: North Carolina Watch: less TV Posts: 2,224	Do it. Panerai craze is over. Would love to love the brand again, but they are milking inventing their history while producing only okay watches/movements. __________________ Collector and buyer of Lange, VC, Patek \| 2 FA Enabled

3 October 2018, 03:40 AM	#2
rolexinfl "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: FL Posts: 663	Of course, Rolex over Panerai any day of the week.

3 October 2018, 04:44 AM	#5
Richard6xdx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: California Posts: 568	Too many watches. This would basically move me to all Rolex. JC, SD43, White Skydweller and Exp II. I am next on the list to get a Blue SD, so I would most likely get rid of the white one and keep the blue once its in .

3 October 2018, 05:08 AM	#7
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,023	It’s a fair trade... if you want to change things up, why not.

3 October 2018, 07:42 AM	#8
hhtwaijri "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Kuwait Posts: 185	Exp ii. Most underrated Rolex. I love it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 October 2018, 11:35 AM	#9
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	The enabler in me says "DO IT" Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

3 October 2018, 06:15 PM	#11
joli160 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,603	Quickly before he changes his mind __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

3 October 2018, 06:21 PM	#12
danwang0520 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Daniel Location: Taipei, Taiwan Watch: my signature Posts: 2,684	i would make the trade........

3 October 2018, 07:22 PM	#13
Double Barrel Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Paris Posts: 118	I don't like Panerai so i would do the trade

3 October 2018, 07:27 PM	#14
ColnagoC60 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Singapore Posts: 76	I have a PAM 111 and an Exp2 42mm Polar. I would do the trade. I still like Panerai as a brand as well as its history but they seem to have lost their way. And well, tastes towards large watches have changed too. Doubt you will regret doing the trade. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 October 2018, 07:46 PM	#15
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Yes. Always

3 October 2018, 09:09 PM	#17
DLRIDES 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Don Location: NC/WY Watch: Me Posts: 4,649	While the Pam is valued slightly higher (asking), they are toxic to sell. I would definitely trade, and if you don’t “connect” with the EXP, flip it easily ........... __________________ *Purchasing your first non HOA home on a 3 acre lot DOES NOT equate to owning a “farm”.*

3 October 2018, 09:10 PM	#18
1William 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 46,782	Run, don't walk to do this trade. The trade value of your Panerai is sub 5k. Just send a TS a note and see what they say for trade value. Most will not take it. I am a huge Panerai fan and own a 422 but would do this trade all day long.

4 October 2018, 08:51 AM	#20
scombs263 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: COMBS#263 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Watch: Rolex SD43 Posts: 2,193	I love Panerai, sold my only one recently to fund a Rolex. I would do the deal, go get another Panerai later, much easier to get.

4 October 2018, 11:28 AM	#21
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 5,996	Is this a straight trade or is there a cash top up?

4 October 2018, 11:31 AM	#22
t65tampa "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,192	Do it. The Rolex will treat you right over the long run. __________________ t65tampa

4 October 2018, 11:37 AM	#23
Brian Page "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	I would do this, I've had a number of Panerai and gone through that craze, you have a chance to get out and own a far superior watch in my opinion. EXPII is one of my favorites!

8 October 2018, 05:12 AM	#26
Richard6xdx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: California Posts: 568	He changed his mind He is now at 800 cash plus my PAM . I am still undecided. Its a one hour drive, He also wants me to drive to him. I am still considering it

8 October 2018, 05:29 AM	#27
Chknight706 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Falls Church, Va Posts: 62	Both move slow when reselling. That’s a tough one... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 October 2018, 05:40 AM	#29
Daytonaman799 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC/South Fl Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 3,637	No comparison between the two...Exp II all the way

8 October 2018, 07:34 AM	#30
ap1 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,394	Yeah I’d do that trade

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