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Old 24 December 2019, 11:21 AM   #1
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Best spring bar tool?

What is the recommended tool for SS tools watches and PM Daytona OF change outs? Please share company name, price and where to buy.


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Old 24 December 2019, 11:23 AM   #2
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Best spring bar tool?

Ohh it is just a spring bar. Wanted to make sure and not misinform.



Here you go Bergeon 7825 (tweezer)

Bergeon 6767-F (Spring bar tool with pin and fork ends)

According to Bas from a different thread, just jam a tool in there.
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Old 24 December 2019, 11:27 AM   #3
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Old 24 December 2019, 11:28 AM   #4
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I have two different Bergeons ( 6767-F and the 7825 tweezers ) they both work well
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Old 24 December 2019, 11:39 AM   #5
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Esslinger Tool is a good source for Bergeon tools.

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Old 24 December 2019, 11:41 AM   #6
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Definitely the Bergeon 7825
https://www.esslinger.com/bergeon-78...-bar-tweezers/

Also very important, jewelers glasses. Makes a world of difference.

YOCTOSUN Head Mount Magnifier with 2 Led Professional Jeweler's Loupe Light Bracket and Headband are Interchangeable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H8808H6..._A4waEb9Q94TMM
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Old 24 December 2019, 12:12 PM   #7
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+1 for the set of Bergeon 7825 tweezers...they make swapping bracelets a breeze. I picked mine up on TRF but you can grab them on esslinger as well.
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Old 24 December 2019, 01:34 PM   #8
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Here are the ones I use...
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Old 24 December 2019, 01:55 PM   #9
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Do you tape the ends so they don’t mark PM case?


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Old 24 December 2019, 02:12 PM   #10
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Why the 6825 AND the 7825?
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Old 24 December 2019, 02:13 PM   #11
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Yes, I always tape the underside of the lugs with electrical tape...just to be safe
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Old 24 December 2019, 02:16 PM   #12
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I've been using these for years now. Picked them up from Ebay. Not bad and quality item for the price. Works great as well.

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Old 24 December 2019, 02:18 PM   #13
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Why the 6825 AND the 7825?
I think I started with 6825 for oyster bracelets and then found the 7825 tweezers were better for the jubilee bracelets. I now only use the tweezers and they are easier to handle and work with.

Do remember, the screwdriver required to size the oyster bracelet is different than the jubilee bracelet. Just in case someone is thinking of sizing their own bracelet.
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Old 24 December 2019, 02:27 PM   #14
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I think I started with 6825 for oyster bracelets and then found the 7825 tweezers were better for the jubilee bracelets. I now only use the tweezers and they are easier to handle and work with.
Wow, I would've thought the 6825 would be easier. Thanks for the tip....I have a 7825 and I guess I no longer aspire to get a 6825.
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Old 24 December 2019, 03:14 PM   #15
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If you have a real SS tool watch, all you need is a toothpick. For the Daytona, see above.
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Old 24 December 2019, 03:44 PM   #16
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Old 24 December 2019, 08:12 PM   #17
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Definitely the Bergeon 7825
https://www.esslinger.com/bergeon-78...-bar-tweezers/

Also very important, jewelers glasses. Makes a world of difference.

YOCTOSUN Head Mount Magnifier with 2 Led Professional Jeweler's Loupe Light Bracket and Headband are Interchangeable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H8808H6..._A4waEb9Q94TMM
Does this work to adjust the bracelet inside the clasp also?
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Old 24 December 2019, 09:21 PM   #18
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Does this work to adjust the bracelet inside the clasp also?
Yes, the Bergeon 7825 fits 6-digit clasp bars as well. Tip geometry is the same as the official Rolex tool. Bergeon makes theirs as well.
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Old 24 December 2019, 09:27 PM   #19
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What is the recommended tool for SS tools watches and PM Daytona OF change outs? Please share company name, price and where to buy.
For the Oysterflex springbar at the case, you'll want to use the 7825 like a pry tool and go at one side at a time. That approach is both safer and easier than trying to compress the Oysterflex with the tweezers. You'll find the latter to be very difficult.

Personally, you might want to let an AD watchmaker do the swap if you aren't 100% sure. Replacement springbars for your watch are about $800 each if you manage to damage one.
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Old 25 December 2019, 03:06 AM   #20
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Wow, I would've thought the 6825 would be easier. Thanks for the tip....I have a 7825 and I guess I no longer aspire to get a 6825.
6825 doesn't fit solid end links, even the finest tips are too wide. Some file the tips to fit, but it's easier just to get the 7825.
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Old 25 December 2019, 03:11 AM   #21
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Old 25 December 2019, 03:13 AM   #22
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Don't do it yourself. If you get a stuck plunger on the spring bar it will slip down and pop out and bite a hole out of your lug on the visible side. Those fine tipped tweezers won't be able help if this happens. Trust me. Resist the urge.
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Old 25 December 2019, 06:51 AM   #23
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Don't do it yourself. If you get a stuck plunger on the spring bar it will slip down and pop out and bite a hole out of your lug on the visible side. Those fine tipped tweezers won't be able help if this happens. Trust me. Resist the urge.
That's just bad technique. Used correctly it is impossible to scratch a lug.
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That's just bad technique. Used correctly it is impossible to scratch a lug.

I thought so too since changing straps for past 19 years I never had it happen. The tweezer tips need to be replaced when worn even a little bit. Combination of broken tip and a bar that wouldn't compress on one side so it wedged itself in there until springing out the bottom. It only takes once. Seems like a silly proposition on such an expensive watch for a newbie who doesn't even know what tool to use to think he's going to do this himself and have good technique.
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Old 25 December 2019, 07:08 AM   #25
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I thought so too since changing straps for past 19 years I never had it happen. The tweezer tips need to be replaced when worn even a little bit. Combination of broken tip and a bar that wouldn't compress on one side so it wedged itself in there until springing out the bottom. It only takes once. Seems like a silly proposition on such an expensive watch for a newbie who doesn't even know what tool to use to think he's going to do this himself and have good technique.
Do it on a case cushion. Pin the end link (and spring bar) down like you're pinning a snake to the ground, then remove or re-introduce the head as necessary. The spring bar can't go anywhere, its just not possible, neither can it scratch anything.

Worn tips are also a sign of bad technique. Tips get worn when they slip off the spring bar. Constant downward pressure avoids this problem too.
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Do it on a case cushion. Pin the end link (and spring bar) down like you're pinning a snake to the ground, then remove or re-introduce the head as necessary. The spring bar can't go anywhere, its just not possible, neither can it scratch anything.

Worn tips are also a sign of bad technique. Tips get worn when they slip off the spring bar. Constant downward pressure avoids this problem too.


In other words, don't mess with it if you don't have proper training. That was my point for OP.
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Just ordered the Bergeon 7825 - hopefully it will live up to it's hype.
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