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doramas · 1 January 2020, 09:41 PM

If you were lucky enough to be able to choose between the new Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15500 and the Patek Nautilus 5711, which would you choose? Why?

Sorry to publish this post here, but in the AP forum or the PP forum the answers would not be completely impartial.

Henry F. · 1 January 2020, 09:47 PM

what's the price point and how long is the waiting time for each ?

TswaneNguni · 1 January 2020, 09:48 PM

Impartial answer ...neither .

The only Patek I like is the 42mm WG Aquanaut Blue on blue rubber .

Henry F. · 1 January 2020, 09:58 PM

tough decision. I really like both but if I had to choose one I'd go with the AP because it gives me more of a intense sports feeling as where as the Patek feels more like golf club or yacht party.

GarbanzoNegro · 1 January 2020, 10:05 PM

As long as they don’t have a “no date” version...

Rashid.bk · 1 January 2020, 10:08 PM

AP, very easily. A movement that doesn’t hack and a tiny date window with indifferent number font is preposterous for a $30k ss watch, nevermind at market price. The Nautilus is all hype founded on the fact that it was the least expensive watch PP offered once upon a time.

faimag · 1 January 2020, 10:22 PM

PP because I like the darker-shade blue dial better.

1William · 1 January 2020, 10:26 PM

PP at retail.

Albusdabbledore · 1 January 2020, 10:28 PM

Love my 15500 only like the nautilus in rose gold

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joli160 · 1 January 2020, 10:28 PM

None, at this price point I'd choose something else.
The Genta design never really worked for me.

DLRIDES · 1 January 2020, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

None, at this price point I'd choose something else.
The Genta design never really worked for me.

This

IMO

Crazy prices for SS, and dated design.

jvb.nc · 1 January 2020, 10:42 PM

neither. while i would like some patek and AP references in my collection, the two mentioned bore me to tears.

brandrea · 1 January 2020, 11:14 PM

Sign me up for the Nautilus please

beshannon · 1 January 2020, 11:16 PM

I chose the 5711

JR16 · 2 January 2020, 12:01 AM

5711. I wouldn’t pay half of retail for the 15500 bc I don’t like the way it fits me.

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Justindo · 2 January 2020, 11:32 AM

If I had to choose, I guess I'd take the Nautilus but I personally think watches from the seventies are ugly. The prices these are going for is insanity.

mps354 · 2 January 2020, 11:59 AM

I prefer the feel and aesthetics of the 5711

texasmade · 2 January 2020, 12:29 PM

Between those 2, I'd take the 5711. If 15202 were an option, I'd take that over the 5711.

timepieceluvr · 2 January 2020, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasmade

Between those 2, I'd take the 5711. If 15202 were an option, I'd take that over the 5711.

Bingo! X2

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Russell996 · 2 January 2020, 08:36 PM

5711 - easy choice. Comfort on the wrist is simply perfect - true of 11/12/40.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

AP, very easily. A movement that doesn’t hack and a tiny date window with indifferent number font is preposterous for a $30k ss watch, nevermind at market price. The Nautilus is all hype founded on the fact that it was the least expensive watch PP offered once upon a time.

5711 does now hack, but I doubt that makes the difference.

PJ S · 2 January 2020, 10:39 PM

Neither, as against the grain that may be.
Of the ROs, the 15300 dial style was much more preferable, but the size wouldn’t work for me. Overall though, the design was a bit too fussy and I couldn’t abide the crown – style over ergonomics as far as my fingers were concerned.

The Nautilus just doesn’t have any appeal, with or without Patek’s name on the dial. In fact, I bet if it was Piaget whose name was on that design, it would've probably been discontinued due to its lack of popularity.

It was the 2nd Gen VC Overseas, whose bracelet was a triumph in design, that did it for me, but the crown was just too fiddly due to the ‘guard’, which is one thing the 4500V got right. Still love the 47040 aesthetic though, and would’ve been the perfect watch with the 3rd’s crown and the 1st’s military dial.

ts3 · 2 January 2020, 11:55 PM

5711. I find it much more elegant and light-handed in terms of design than the RO which has a very industrial look in my eyes, no matter if 15202 or 15500.

supersam80 · 3 January 2020, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ts3

5711. I find it much more elegant and light-handed in terms of design than the RO which has a very industrial look in my eyes, no matter if 15202 or 15500.

My thoughts exactly, which is why I would choose the 15500 over the 5711

cascavel · 3 January 2020, 06:45 PM

I've owned the 15400 and currently have the 15202 and the 5711. I found the 15400 to be too large for a 7" wrist and prefer the 15300 and the 15202.
The 5711 is the most versatile and beautiful watch I have ever owned and feels right for most non-combat situations.

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AP Royal Oak 15500	32	40.51%
PP Nautilus 5711	47	59.49%
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1 January 2020, 09:41 PM	#1
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	What do you like? If you were lucky enough to be able to choose between the new Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15500 and the Patek Nautilus 5711, which would you choose? Why? Sorry to publish this post here, but in the AP forum or the PP forum the answers would not be completely impartial.

1 January 2020, 10:28 PM	#10
joli160 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,663	None, at this price point I'd choose something else. The Genta design never really worked for me. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

1 January 2020, 10:42 PM	#12
jvb.nc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: NC / CA Watch: 228206meteorite Posts: 1,333	neither. while i would like some patek and AP references in my collection, the two mentioned bore me to tears. __________________ 116710blnr / 116610lv / 216750 polar / 126600 mk1 / 116500ln / 126710blro / 228206 meteorite / 126719 meteorite / Pelagos 25600 // insta @jvbphotos

1 January 2020, 11:16 PM	#14
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	I chose the 5711 __________________ Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

1 January 2020, 09:47 PM	#2
Henry F. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Henry Location: Switzerland Watch: Omega AT 150 Posts: 269	what's the price point and how long is the waiting time for each ?

1 January 2020, 09:48 PM	#3
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Impartial answer ...neither . The only Patek I like is the 42mm WG Aquanaut Blue on blue rubber .

1 January 2020, 09:58 PM	#4
Henry F. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Henry Location: Switzerland Watch: Omega AT 150 Posts: 269	tough decision. I really like both but if I had to choose one I'd go with the AP because it gives me more of a intense sports feeling as where as the Patek feels more like golf club or yacht party.

1 January 2020, 10:05 PM	#5
GarbanzoNegro "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 448	As long as they don’t have a “no date” version...

1 January 2020, 10:08 PM	#6
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,173	AP, very easily. A movement that doesn’t hack and a tiny date window with indifferent number font is preposterous for a $30k ss watch, nevermind at market price. The Nautilus is all hype founded on the fact that it was the least expensive watch PP offered once upon a time.

1 January 2020, 10:22 PM	#7
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	PP because I like the darker-shade blue dial better.

1 January 2020, 10:26 PM	#8
1William 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,219	PP at retail.

1 January 2020, 10:28 PM	#9
Albusdabbledore "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Denver Posts: 338	Love my 15500 only like the nautilus in rose gold Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 January 2020, 11:14 PM	#13
brandrea 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 77,248	Sign me up for the Nautilus please

2 January 2020, 12:01 AM	#15
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,241	5711. I wouldn’t pay half of retail for the 15500 bc I don’t like the way it fits me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

2 January 2020, 11:32 AM	#16
Justindo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: California Posts: 2,176	If I had to choose, I guess I'd take the Nautilus but I personally think watches from the seventies are ugly. The prices these are going for is insanity.

2 January 2020, 11:59 AM	#17
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,082	I prefer the feel and aesthetics of the 5711

2 January 2020, 12:29 PM	#18
texasmade "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Lone Star State Watch: AP RO 15400, FOIS Posts: 2,376	Between those 2, I'd take the 5711. If 15202 were an option, I'd take that over the 5711.

2 January 2020, 10:39 PM	#21
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	Neither, as against the grain that may be. Of the ROs, the 15300 dial style was much more preferable, but the size wouldn’t work for me. Overall though, the design was a bit too fussy and I couldn’t abide the crown – style over ergonomics as far as my fingers were concerned. The Nautilus just doesn’t have any appeal, with or without Patek’s name on the dial. In fact, I bet if it was Piaget whose name was on that design, it would've probably been discontinued due to its lack of popularity. It was the 2nd Gen VC Overseas, whose bracelet was a triumph in design, that did it for me, but the crown was just too fiddly due to the ‘guard’, which is one thing the 4500V got right. Still love the 47040 aesthetic though, and would’ve been the perfect watch with the 3rd’s crown and the 1st’s military dial.

2 January 2020, 11:55 PM	#22
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,462	5711. I find it much more elegant and light-handed in terms of design than the RO which has a very industrial look in my eyes, no matter if 15202 or 15500.

3 January 2020, 06:45 PM	#24
cascavel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 1,888	I've owned the 15400 and currently have the 15202 and the 5711. I found the 15400 to be too large for a 7" wrist and prefer the 15300 and the 15202. The 5711 is the most versatile and beautiful watch I have ever owned and feels right for most non-combat situations.

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