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Rolex50 · 4 February 2020, 12:18 PM

Is an AD likely to at least discount for the amount of taxes, particularly if paying retail price up front to order the watch?

AshCashEmAll · 4 February 2020, 12:21 PM

Depends on the watch... in my experience I get the tax taken off when I pay cash up front.

ZOOK · 4 February 2020, 12:25 PM

It is very, very, very much a sellers market right now. Meaning Rolex ADs have many more people ready and willing to pay whatever the price is to purchase a watch.

To avoid sales tax, move to Montana. But you will still have to wait for any popular watch. Do you have experience building igloos?

Danny83 · 4 February 2020, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolex50

Is an AD likely to at least discount for the amount of taxes, particularly if paying retail price up front to order the watch?

I tried the other day lol did not work

ArtNouveau · 4 February 2020, 02:35 PM

Discounting the taxes is a X% discount. No reason for a US dealer to do that these days.

sunnygps · 4 February 2020, 02:42 PM

There has been two time where my AD was willing to ship out of state and that too for two DJ41 have bought from him in the last 18 months.

Irrespective of shipping out of state, the buying is still responsible for paying taxes in their own State (States where sales tax is applicable). That is how I understand the sales tax laws in the US.

Jona · 4 February 2020, 02:54 PM

It used to be pretty easy to get the tax waived at my AD. In fact they had an annual watch fair during which they advertised no tax. Not any longer. No discounts.

brucethemanlee · 4 February 2020, 02:56 PM

on SS... 0% chance of discount
on non professional PM... you might get a few % off

AshCashEmAll · 4 February 2020, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ZOOK

It is very, very, very much a sellers market right now. Meaning Rolex ADs have many more people ready and willing to pay whatever the price is to purchase a watch.

To avoid sales tax, move to Montana. But you will still have to wait for any popular watch. Do you have experience building igloos?

Couldn’t agree more... too many people walking in and paying full retail. Can’t compete with the dummies willing to do that.

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watchmaker · 4 February 2020, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AshCashEmAll

Couldn’t agree more... too many people walking in and paying full retail. Can’t compete with the dummies willing to do that.

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Right...people paying full retail for a sub/gmt/sd/daytona are dummies.

They should forfeit their spot in line and wait for a steel Daytona at 20% off like they used to be

beshannon · 4 February 2020, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolex50

Is an AD likely to at least discount for the amount of taxes, particularly if paying retail price up front to order the watch?

Which AD?

watchwatcher · 5 February 2020, 12:26 AM

Really depends on a lot of different factors. I've managed this in some cases, but with others, no such luck.

Hey, but it never hurts to ask, right?

ArtNouveau · 5 February 2020, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AshCashEmAll

Couldn’t agree more... too many people walking in and paying full retail. Can’t compete with the dummies willing to do that.

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I personally hope that paying MSRP is here to stay. How and why did we ever get the notion that we should haggle for watches? Other than cars and houses what else do you regularly haggle over?

garyk · 5 February 2020, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AshCashEmAll

Couldn’t agree more... too many people walking in and paying full retail. Can’t compete with the dummies willing to do that.

Hi, I'm one of those dummies and proud of it. I've always bought from ADs and have been paying retail for the more popular Rolex watches since the early 2000s. I currently have a 116508 YG green dial incoming, yep that's right, full retail plus tax for that one as well. Darn, I should have checked with you first I guess?? Probably not though, I'm happy right where I am!!!

Watchflair · 5 February 2020, 12:43 AM

Depends on the watch and tax rate.

Rolex is on fire right now - unless it's a non sports PM piece I don't see it happening.

mountainjogger · 5 February 2020, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AshCashEmAll

Couldn’t agree more... too many people walking in and paying full retail. Can’t compete with the dummies willing to do that.

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therealcbar · 5 February 2020, 03:01 AM

Here in Canada, as of late 2019, it was a hard no from several ADs I approached looking at SS DJ41s....

Ungucpho · 5 February 2020, 03:02 AM

Haggling is basically anytime you use a coupon code or buy something on a promotion price.

I’d never pay msrp for certain things, home appliances, tv, computer, laptop, vet medication, etc.

My Rolex is a personal choice, not a necessity in life. It’s a little different since the market is crazy today, but I received a 10% discount on my SubC, once market conditions change and normalize (If they ever do), there’s no reason why I shouldn’t be able to achieve that same discount. It might take some leg work, but that’s why I enjoy the hunt

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Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

I personally hope that paying MSRP is here to stay. How and why did we ever get the notion that we should haggle for watches? Other than cars and houses what else do you regularly haggle over?

antelope · 5 February 2020, 03:14 AM

If possible to ship out of state you can avoid paying tax.

Bozack90 · 5 February 2020, 06:12 AM

years ago sure, now nope

Robf52 · 5 February 2020, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by watchmaker

Right...people paying full retail for a sub/gmt/sd/daytona are dummies.

They should forfeit their spot in line and wait for a steel Daytona at 20% off like they used to be

they'll be waiting a loooong time.

BDII · 5 February 2020, 07:43 AM

The market is crazy now... Not a chance. It is bizarre world when you find your self thanking someone for selling you an item at retail + tax, but that is where I found myself last week. Has me rethinking buying Rolex for a long while until the market cools.

Whole experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

AshCashEmAll · 5 February 2020, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by watchmaker

Right...people paying full retail for a sub/gmt/sd/daytona are dummies.

They should forfeit their spot in line and wait for a steel Daytona at 20% off like they used to be

I mean come on... do you really think I am referring to any of those models especially SS with the current market?! I am referring to the two tones and full PM pieces people don't even bother to ask if there is any wiggle room.

AshCashEmAll · 5 February 2020, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

I personally hope that paying MSRP is here to stay. How and why did we ever get the notion that we should haggle for watches? Other than cars and houses what else do you regularly haggle over?

The notion to haggle was given when we established a free market economy. Nothing wrong with paying MSRP but if you can save money why not?! Crazy how you will haggle over a $20k+ car but all of a sudden we should stop when we are talking about a 30k luxury wristwatch with way less moving parts.

AshCashEmAll · 5 February 2020, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by garyk

Hi, I'm one of those dummies and proud of it. I've always bought from ADs and have been paying retail for the more popular Rolex watches since the early 2000s. I currently have a 116508 YG green dial incoming, yep that's right, full retail plus tax for that one as well. Darn, I should have checked with you first I guess?? Probably not though, I'm happy right where I am!!!

Obviously, I should of gone more into depth about what I really meant when I said full msrp. Understandable, paying full msrp on the more popular watches only makes sense now given the current demand for Rolex in general. I was really referring to the less popular watches or the full pm pieces that people never bother asking for a discount. I'm happy that you are getting the 116508 green dial and it makes complete sense to pay full msrp given the absurd premium since the John Mayer mentioned it on Hodinkee not to mention nothing beats the peace of mind of having your name on the warranty card.

Rado63 · 5 February 2020, 08:25 AM

Apparently they all have the same memo, No More Discounts!

brandrea · 5 February 2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ZOOK

It is very, very, very much a sellers market right now. Meaning Rolex ADs have many more people ready and willing to pay whatever the price is to purchase a watch....

This.^^^

slashd0t · 5 February 2020, 08:38 AM

I tried to buy a Rolex Smurf from the Rolex Boutique in Vancouver BC (I live in Alberta).. In BC they pay a federal tax and a provincial tax (12%) and Alberta only pays a 5% federal tax. They refused to sell it to me for full price + just federal tax (even just ship it to me).

Was really unfortunate as no other Rolex AD or boutique in Canada had a Smurf in stock.. I ended up buying a Vacheron instead - but definitely a loss for Rolex on a WG piece at full price all because they wanted me to pay tax on something I technically am not subject to because they wouldn't ship it.

4 February 2020, 12:18 PM	#1
Rolex50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 99	Discount amount of taxes? Is an AD likely to at least discount for the amount of taxes, particularly if paying retail price up front to order the watch?

5 February 2020, 12:43 AM	#15
Watchflair 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: Love em all Posts: 5,910	Depends on the watch and tax rate. Rolex is on fire right now - unless it's a non sports PM piece I don't see it happening. __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

5 February 2020, 08:25 AM	#26
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	Apparently they all have the same memo, No More Discounts! __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

5 February 2020, 08:38 AM	#28
slashd0t "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Jamie Location: Edmonton, AB Watch: This & That Posts: 771	I tried to buy a Rolex Smurf from the Rolex Boutique in Vancouver BC (I live in Alberta).. In BC they pay a federal tax and a provincial tax (12%) and Alberta only pays a 5% federal tax. They refused to sell it to me for full price + just federal tax (even just ship it to me). Was really unfortunate as no other Rolex AD or boutique in Canada had a Smurf in stock.. I ended up buying a Vacheron instead - but definitely a loss for Rolex on a WG piece at full price all because they wanted me to pay tax on something I technically am not subject to because they wouldn't ship it. __________________ /.

4 February 2020, 12:21 PM	#2
AshCashEmAll 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: California Watch: 114060 Posts: 442	Depends on the watch... in my experience I get the tax taken off when I pay cash up front.

4 February 2020, 12:25 PM	#3
ZOOK 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Dave Location: PDX Posts: 9,592	It is very, very, very much a sellers market right now. Meaning Rolex ADs have many more people ready and willing to pay whatever the price is to purchase a watch. To avoid sales tax, move to Montana. But you will still have to wait for any popular watch. Do you have experience building igloos?

4 February 2020, 02:35 PM	#5
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 5,243	Discounting the taxes is a X% discount. No reason for a US dealer to do that these days.

4 February 2020, 02:42 PM	#6
sunnygps 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 1,144	There has been two time where my AD was willing to ship out of state and that too for two DJ41 have bought from him in the last 18 months. Irrespective of shipping out of state, the buying is still responsible for paying taxes in their own State (States where sales tax is applicable). That is how I understand the sales tax laws in the US.

4 February 2020, 02:54 PM	#7
Jona Banned Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Watch: 116618LN Posts: 1,399	It used to be pretty easy to get the tax waived at my AD. In fact they had an annual watch fair during which they advertised no tax. Not any longer. No discounts.

4 February 2020, 02:56 PM	#8
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,540	on SS... 0% chance of discount on non professional PM... you might get a few % off

5 February 2020, 12:26 AM	#12
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,901	Really depends on a lot of different factors. I've managed this in some cases, but with others, no such luck. Hey, but it never hurts to ask, right?

5 February 2020, 03:01 AM	#17
therealcbar "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Ontario Watch: DJ41 126300 Posts: 65	Here in Canada, as of late 2019, it was a hard no from several ADs I approached looking at SS DJ41s....

5 February 2020, 03:14 AM	#19
antelope "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 426	If possible to ship out of state you can avoid paying tax.

5 February 2020, 06:12 AM	#20
Bozack90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Chowdaland Watch: Out Posts: 596	years ago sure, now nope

5 February 2020, 07:43 AM	#22
BDII "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: GMT -5 Watch: Rolex 126710 BLRO Posts: 786	The market is crazy now... Not a chance. It is bizarre world when you find your self thanking someone for selling you an item at retail + tax, but that is where I found myself last week. Has me rethinking buying Rolex for a long while until the market cools. Whole experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

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