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nightmyth · 5 February 2020, 03:00 PM

So I’ve been calling some ADs around for a Sub and 3 of them (not related) states that they do not talk about inventory over the phone and one must come in the store to find out. They even claimed that they do not keep waiting lists or a VIP system. Allegedly, if they get a SS Daytona they will even put it in their display case rather than sell them to VIPs.

Is this just BS for customers with no purchase history or do such ADs actually exist?

brucethemanlee · 5 February 2020, 03:04 PM

i call BS

but i've been known to be wrong as there are exceptions

Wimbledon · 5 February 2020, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightmyth

So I’ve been calling some ADs around for a Sub and 3 of them (not related) states that they do not talk about inventory over the phone and one must come in the store to find out. They even claimed that they do not keep waiting lists or a VIP system. Allegedly, if they get a SS Daytona they will even put it in their display case rather than sell them to VIPs.

Is this just BS for customers with no purchase history or do such ADs actually exist?

Well...a couple years ago I was shopping around for a new Rolex. It had been years since I bought one and wasn't aware of the whole SS sport watch craze. When I started calling around stores were pretty rude with me and talking in circles. I told them who I was and that I would spend money in their store...they didn't believe me and kept asking me to come in.

But around my part of town you have to drop big $$$$$ to get anyone's attention.

Then I dropped big $$$$$ and got put on one ADs VIP list. I said to hell with those other ADs. I will not spend my money there. Ever. There is no VIP system. It's up to the owner/manager of the store.

DGB · 5 February 2020, 03:09 PM

Pure BS.

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JayHantz · 5 February 2020, 03:15 PM

Yeah.....I highly doubt that.

42itus · 5 February 2020, 03:25 PM

What would make you want to stop in and visit? If they told that everything goes in the case? Or if they tell you that everything is reserved for VIPs?
So yeah, I call BS as well.

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Batmannr1 · 5 February 2020, 03:43 PM

If the ADs tell you that they will put any SS Submariner, GMT Master or Daytona in the display case, they are lying through their teeth.

mikkolopez · 5 February 2020, 04:12 PM

That’s Bull.

All ADs I’ve walked into have yet to put any SS sports at their display since 2017. And I have not seen this waitlist.

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jazznpool · 5 February 2020, 04:14 PM

A few years ago I called several Rolex dealers in the USA and visited a few. To humor me I was told I could be put on a "list" for a SS Daytona when I asked at 2 places local to me. I now know that was complete nonsense. For those of us without a strong purchase history with an AD, paying the going rate with a trusted grey dealer is the only way to go for a watch selling for several thousand over MSRP. While finding a highly sought after Rolex in an AD's display is a possibility, at the current time it is not likely.

schoolboy · 5 February 2020, 04:24 PM

Doubt it

But I do “hope” that they are fair

peterpl · 5 February 2020, 04:25 PM

BS

Whos going to give away a free $10k? LOL

They are all in it to make the most money they can

charlesheung · 5 February 2020, 04:29 PM

This is the rule of the commercial world.
You know, I know, everyone knows.

Don’t be sad or angry, this is the reality.

Ihatecheese · 5 February 2020, 04:36 PM

You will have the same conversation if you're trying to buy the latest hot bag at LV. Trying to overcomplicate a simple high demand fashion purchase is a lesson in disappointment! Why would a salesperson care, unless you are putting money in their pocket.

2mgversed · 5 February 2020, 05:10 PM

Was at a AD this past weekend. They had 2 daytonas - TT one with pearl, the other white gold, a gold/blue Sub, TT Blue Sub, Gold/Black Sub, and and few YM40 and YMII steele and TT. I was pretty surprised, but it does happen. They did say for SS and GMT there is a waitlist of some sort and not expect it for some time.

David5807 · 5 February 2020, 05:18 PM

Total BS

storm66 · 5 February 2020, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wimbledon

Well...a couple years ago I was shopping around for a new Rolex. It had been years since I bought one and wasn't aware of the whole SS sport watch craze. When I started calling around stores were pretty rude with me and talking in circles. I told them who I was and that I would spend money in their store...they didn't believe me and kept asking me to come in.

But around my part of town you have to drop big $$$$$ to get anyone's attention.

Then I dropped big $$$$$ and got put on one ADs VIP list. I said to hell with those other ADs. I will not spend my money there. Ever. There is no VIP system. It's up to the owner/manager of the store.

You’ve just proved there is a VIP system......

Or did I read it wrong?

VEK · 5 February 2020, 05:57 PM

A week ago I saw 116613LB and a 116400 black dial in the display case at a Hong Kong AD
and I bought one of it

MTdweller · 5 February 2020, 06:04 PM

I don’t see a way an AD could just put the hottest pieces in the case without alienating their best clients who want those watches. To imply there is zero preferential treatment whatsoever is an ignorant statement on the part of the SA.

joli160 · 5 February 2020, 06:43 PM

They are lying, don't want to hurt your feelings

scheneider · 5 February 2020, 07:09 PM

Bs

Harry-57 · 5 February 2020, 10:07 PM

If you were a loyal, long term customer with that AD and they knew you wanted a hot SS watch, what would you say if instead of ringing you they just put it in the window?

Is that a credible scenario? Is it remotely believable?

1665fan · 5 February 2020, 10:12 PM

Horse manure

brandrea · 5 February 2020, 10:15 PM

My AD had a DSSD and an Explorer 1 in their display case last week FWIW.

ralpie · 5 February 2020, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by storm66

You’ve just proved there is a VIP system......

Or did I read it wrong?

I think it was a sarcastic post.

Manu77 · 5 February 2020, 10:19 PM

Bs

SDR581 · 5 February 2020, 10:31 PM

Yep. Sounds like BS..

I told one AD in Delaware I was looking for a 114060 and he told me I should come in to purchase it. Then he tried selling me a TT DJ 41 with chocolate diamond dial as an "alternative".

djgallo · 5 February 2020, 10:58 PM

Welcome to the real world....

pickettt · 6 February 2020, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandrea

My AD had a DSSD and an Explorer 1 in their display case last week FWIW.

I’ve seen one (1) DSSD in a case since this whole thing started. Not one other SS “sports” model.

1Zach1 · 6 February 2020, 12:32 AM

ADs do whatever they feel like, there is no one answer for what all ADs will or will not do. I would suspect that most, if not all, ADs have names of potential customers to call the second a watch comes in, so I find it unlikely that popular models make it to cases, but I don't think it can 100% be ruled out.

pinkyhotdog · 6 February 2020, 12:35 AM

Depends. If the store is located in an area - have been to lower average income countries/cities - where the shop is in a relatively smaller city there is a chance they have a small VIP list. When this small list already have the watches which they wanted, then they can offer otherwise hard to come by pieces even for the "public". Have seen an example like this before. So, I would say it depends. But it's more unlikely than likely.

5 February 2020, 03:00 PM	#1
nightmyth "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: United States Posts: 124	AD says they are “fair” So I’ve been calling some ADs around for a Sub and 3 of them (not related) states that they do not talk about inventory over the phone and one must come in the store to find out. They even claimed that they do not keep waiting lists or a VIP system. Allegedly, if they get a SS Daytona they will even put it in their display case rather than sell them to VIPs. Is this just BS for customers with no purchase history or do such ADs actually exist?

5 February 2020, 04:12 PM	#8
mikkolopez "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,301	That’s Bull. All ADs I’ve walked into have yet to put any SS sports at their display since 2017. And I have not seen this waitlist. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ At my age now ... I have SEEN everything, I have HEARD everything, I have even DONE everything, I just don't REMEMBER everything.

5 February 2020, 06:43 PM	#19
joli160 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,618	They are lying, don't want to hurt your feelings __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

5 February 2020, 03:04 PM	#2
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,538	i call BS but i've been known to be wrong as there are exceptions

5 February 2020, 03:09 PM	#4
DGB "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: uk Posts: 992	Pure BS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 February 2020, 03:15 PM	#5
JayHantz 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Texas Watch: @Escapementt Posts: 9,844	Yeah.....I highly doubt that.

5 February 2020, 03:25 PM	#6
42itus "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Tom Location: Honolulu Watch: 116519LN Posts: 3,828	What would make you want to stop in and visit? If they told that everything goes in the case? Or if they tell you that everything is reserved for VIPs? So yeah, I call BS as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 February 2020, 03:43 PM	#7
Batmannr1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Martijn Location: Amsterdam Watch: On the left wrist Posts: 724	If the ADs tell you that they will put any SS Submariner, GMT Master or Daytona in the display case, they are lying through their teeth.

5 February 2020, 04:14 PM	#9
jazznpool "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 240	A few years ago I called several Rolex dealers in the USA and visited a few. To humor me I was told I could be put on a "list" for a SS Daytona when I asked at 2 places local to me. I now know that was complete nonsense. For those of us without a strong purchase history with an AD, paying the going rate with a trusted grey dealer is the only way to go for a watch selling for several thousand over MSRP. While finding a highly sought after Rolex in an AD's display is a possibility, at the current time it is not likely.

5 February 2020, 04:24 PM	#10
schoolboy Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Jesus Location: Texas Watch: 116234 Posts: 8,721	Doubt it But I do “hope” that they are fair

5 February 2020, 04:25 PM	#11
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	BS Whos going to give away a free $10k? LOL They are all in it to make the most money they can

5 February 2020, 04:29 PM	#12
charlesheung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: HK Posts: 100	This is the rule of the commercial world. You know, I know, everyone knows. Don’t be sad or angry, this is the reality.

5 February 2020, 04:36 PM	#13
Ihatecheese Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: London Posts: 978	You will have the same conversation if you're trying to buy the latest hot bag at LV. Trying to overcomplicate a simple high demand fashion purchase is a lesson in disappointment! Why would a salesperson care, unless you are putting money in their pocket.

5 February 2020, 05:10 PM	#14
2mgversed "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: city by the bay Watch: 116613LN/PAM560 Posts: 118	Was at a AD this past weekend. They had 2 daytonas - TT one with pearl, the other white gold, a gold/blue Sub, TT Blue Sub, Gold/Black Sub, and and few YM40 and YMII steele and TT. I was pretty surprised, but it does happen. They did say for SS and GMT there is a waitlist of some sort and not expect it for some time.

5 February 2020, 05:18 PM	#15
David5807 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: USA Posts: 2,671	Total BS

5 February 2020, 05:57 PM	#17
VEK "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Kevin Location: Hong Kong Watch: only Rolex Posts: 167	A week ago I saw 116613LB and a 116400 black dial in the display case at a Hong Kong AD and I bought one of it

5 February 2020, 06:04 PM	#18
MTdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ty Location: West Coast Watch: the time fly! Posts: 1,493	I don’t see a way an AD could just put the hottest pieces in the case without alienating their best clients who want those watches. To imply there is zero preferential treatment whatsoever is an ignorant statement on the part of the SA.

5 February 2020, 07:09 PM	#20
scheneider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Singapore/London Posts: 552	Bs

5 February 2020, 10:07 PM	#21
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,465	If you were a loyal, long term customer with that AD and they knew you wanted a hot SS watch, what would you say if instead of ringing you they just put it in the window? Is that a credible scenario? Is it remotely believable?

5 February 2020, 10:12 PM	#22
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,655	Horse manure

5 February 2020, 10:15 PM	#23
brandrea 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 76,771	My AD had a DSSD and an Explorer 1 in their display case last week FWIW.

5 February 2020, 10:19 PM	#25
Manu77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Spain Posts: 133	Bs

5 February 2020, 10:31 PM	#26
SDR581 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: MontCo County, PA Watch: BLNR 116610LN DJ41 Posts: 299	Yep. Sounds like BS.. I told one AD in Delaware I was looking for a 114060 and he told me I should come in to purchase it. Then he tried selling me a TT DJ 41 with chocolate diamond dial as an "alternative".

5 February 2020, 10:58 PM	#27
djgallo Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Eastwest Posts: 1,322	Welcome to the real world....

6 February 2020, 12:32 AM	#29
1Zach1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 102	ADs do whatever they feel like, there is no one answer for what all ADs will or will not do. I would suspect that most, if not all, ADs have names of potential customers to call the second a watch comes in, so I find it unlikely that popular models make it to cases, but I don't think it can 100% be ruled out.

6 February 2020, 12:35 AM	#30
pinkyhotdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Austria Posts: 20	Depends. If the store is located in an area - have been to lower average income countries/cities - where the shop is in a relatively smaller city there is a chance they have a small VIP list. When this small list already have the watches which they wanted, then they can offer otherwise hard to come by pieces even for the "public". Have seen an example like this before. So, I would say it depends. But it's more unlikely than likely.

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