Newbie here, need help on authenticity

[lksantime]

Hi folks, 10 years ago when I was still a student, I had a grad trip to Switzerland, visiting the luxury watch boutiques and was intrigued by some of the Rolex watches. I told myself I would put this on my wrist someday. The time finally came today, albeit abit late. This might not be the hulk/batman/daytona, but I like it for its simplicity.. no complications, no diamonds, no lume.

However just being paranoid, I heard there's many rolex replicas. Thus would deeply appreciate any expertise here that can help to take a look on this. Feels odd starting my post here, but hope it turns out well.. Thank you very much!

[offrdmania]

Please post pictures and we can help you out.

[lksantime]

Thanks! Just attached the photos. Not sure if the resolution is good enough. Not able to insert link yet due to 10 posts restriction.

[lksantime]

another photo with flashlight

[offrdmania]

Did you buy it from a reputable seller, did it come with its box, the warranty card and booklets?

[lksantime]

Yup (believe should be ok, but wanted to further ease my mind), it came with box, warranty, booklets as well.

[cajunron]

No good. Doesn't look authentic to me, IMO.

[lksantime]

Originally Posted by cajunron

No good. Doesn't look authentic to me, IMO.

May I know which part doesn't look authentic? This is bought from authorized dealer, but just wanted to confirm. I did a few checks, such as able to see the laser crown on the glass at 6 o'clock when shining a light on it, as well as the serial number on the bottom dial tallies with the warranty card.

[cop414]

If you purchased it from an AD there shouldn’t be any question as to its authenticity. Congratulations

[lksantime]

Thanks. I'm just kind of paranoid (as a 'general public', many know rolex for its brand which naturally attracted many counterfeits). Of course as a newcomer, i did the best research i could to see if the watch is authentic. But as much as i can do, i'm still a layman.

So like I mentioned earlier in my post, i was hoping to confirm on this. I read through some threads earlier and i guess there seems to be some hesitance with replying to new members due to 'releasing' details that might encourage illegal activities.

Then again, there should be sincere ones who bought a piece for the first time and would need some help (and i guess this is the first place they can seek help). My paranoid adds up further when getting a no good from cajunron, this is why i'm hoping to understand further.

[tike71]

Looks good to me. I have a caseback opening tool and IMO the best way to verify a watch is by looking at its movement. Enjoy your watch OP

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by cop414

If you purchased it from an AD there shouldn’t be any question as to its authenticity. Congratulations

This! Good job buying from an authorized dealer on your first buy. That was smart. Enjoy!


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[antelope]

Considering the value of having a Rolex distribution agreement it would impossible that any AD would ever sell a fake watch. If purchased from AD do not give this any more thought and sleep easy. Congrats on new watch.


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[cajunron]

I have looked at all the pictures provided, and the 6 marker at the bottom of the dial is shifted way too far to the right, regardless of the angle. I don't think this dial would pass Rolex strict standards. But I am far from an expert. You bought this from an AD?

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by cajunron

I have looked at all the pictures provided, and the 6 marker at the bottom of the dial is shifted way too far to the right, regardless of the angle. I don't think this dial would pass Rolex strict standards. But I am far from an expert. You bought this from an AD?

Whoa good catch! That does seem way off for specs.


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[Silver_Fox]

Originally Posted by lksantime

May I know which part doesn't look authentic? This is bought from authorized dealer, but just wanted to confirm. I did a few checks, such as able to see the laser crown on the glass at 6 o'clock when shining a light on it, as well as the serial number on the bottom dial tallies with the warranty card.

If you bought from an AD, enjoy without a worry in the world, my friend!! Nice piece.


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[cajunron]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Whoa good catch! That does seem way off for specs.


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And if he bought from an AD, it can't be aftermarket.

[lksantime]

Hi cajunron, thanks for clarifying. I took a look at the official photo on rolex site. seems like 5 and 6 spread abit far as well. Am i wrong?

[freefly]

Originally Posted by cajunron

I have looked at all the pictures provided, and the 6 marker at the bottom of the dial is shifted way too far to the right, regardless of the angle.

Offset is normal for that dial/model. So, looks fine from here (no red flags) but pics are not good enough to give any 100% definitive answers, IMO.

OP: If you bought it from a legitimate AD, you have no worries. The push-back / skepticism comes primarily from the fact that many come here with all sorts of "stories" trying to see if they can "fool the experts" with their latest/greatest counterfeit garbage watches. It's like sport to some, I imagine...

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by lksantime

Hi cajunron, thanks for clarifying. I took a look at the official photo on rolex site. seems like 5 and 6 spread abit far as well. Am i wrong?

As I said, I'm not an expert and I honestly hope your watch is legit. However, the spacing at the bottom does seem suspect to me. Maybe that is normal, but I would personally be skeptical. Good luck.

[lksantime]

I compared with the official photo on rolex page and seems about right. I look at the positioning of V, VI, and VII against the 'edge boxes'. V sits right on top of two boxes, VI sits on swiss made.

[cajunron]

I did look at some other dials and there does indeed seem to be that varaition out there. Your dial may be legit after all!

[cajunron]

[cajunron]

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by freefly

Offset is normal for that dial/model. So, looks fine from here (no red flags) but pics are not good enough to give any 100% definitive answers, IMO.

OP: If you bought it from a legitimate AD, you have no worries. The push-back / skepticism comes primarily from the fact that many come here with all sorts of "stories" trying to see if they can "fool the experts" with their latest/greatest counterfeit garbage watches. It's like sport to some, I imagine...

[lksantime]

Originally Posted by freefly

Offset is normal for that dial/model. So, looks fine from here (no red flags) but pics are not good enough to give any 100% definitive answers, IMO.

OP: If you bought it from a legitimate AD, you have no worries. The push-back / skepticism comes primarily from the fact that many come here with all sorts of "stories" trying to see if they can "fool the experts" with their latest/greatest counterfeit garbage watches. It's like sport to some, I imagine...

Thanks! Hoped to share a better resolution as well, but the pixel restriction resulted me in compressing the photo online to meet the uploading requirement.

Understand on the push back since i have read through a few posts as well. 'Fool the experts' and sincere check for newcomers ended up kind of contrary i guess.

[freefly]

Originally Posted by cajunron

I did look at some other dials and there does indeed seem to be that varaition out there.

Yep, and to add more confusion: You have to make sure you are comparing the same case diameters (in this case DJ36 vs. DJ41) as the same dial can be had on both, but with slight differences in scale/font/spacing/etc.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by cajunron

Ah look at that: offset


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[cajunron]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Ah look at that: offset


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Just goes to show: You never can tell!

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by freefly

Yep, and to add more confusion: You have to make sure you are comparing the same case diameters (in this case DJ36 vs. DJ41) as the same dial can be had on both, but with slight differences in scale/font/spacing/etc.

Thanks Eric.