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Old 7 May 2021, 05:32 AM   #1
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Icon20 Rolex Submariner reference 114060

Can a Rolex expert please help me with my questions, I purchased this submariner no date with a serial number that dates back to “1997-1998” why do these years come up? if my submariner is the new ceramic version? my question is I believe these ceramic submariner no dates were manufactured from “2012” to present am I correct? The serial number is on the inside of the rehaut. And the clasp where the Rolex is in black lettering is sand bead blasted, how do I know what year is my submariner no date? Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 7 May 2021, 08:33 AM   #2
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There is no chart or database where a random serial Sub, which a ceramic version would be, can be plugged in and a manufacture date will "come up" accurately.
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Old 7 May 2021, 09:08 AM   #3
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I’m no expert but if your serial comes up in a search to begin with.... flag......not to mention a different model. Just my $0.02
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Sand bead blast inner clasps were on the first few years of the 114060. Not sure but maybe until 2015/16. I bought mine new in Nov'17 and it's fully polished

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Old 7 May 2021, 09:39 AM   #5
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The sandblasted clasp would mean 2012-2015. I think they transitioned to a polished clasp late 2015 or early 2016.
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Old 7 May 2021, 11:03 PM   #6
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Serial number doesn’t tell you anything on a ceramic sub. If I recall last serial’s that could be attached to a date were V serial and then they went random. Someone correct me if I am wrong.


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Old 7 May 2021, 11:41 PM   #7
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Can a Rolex expert please help me with my questions, I purchased this submariner no date with a serial number that dates back to “1997-1998” why do these years come up? if my submariner is the new ceramic version? my question is I believe these ceramic submariner no dates were manufactured from “2012” to present am I correct? The serial number is on the inside of the rehaut. And the clasp where the Rolex is in black lettering is sand bead blasted, how do I know what year is my submariner no date? Any help would be appreciated!
Is the first random serial a "U"? I believe I have seen some random serial's beginning with letters. Last date coded serials were G's and the randoms started mid 2010.
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Old 8 May 2021, 01:49 AM   #8
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Random serials have 8 characters, can start with alpha or a numeric.

Prior to this, alpha serials (L/R thru 'G') had only 7 characters in 'total', and always start with alpha.
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Old 8 May 2021, 03:42 AM   #9
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Could be a coincidence but yes they’ve had random serials for a long time. I very much doubt Rolex would generate a random serial number that then appears to age a watch from before it was even made. Odd.


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In 2015 I purchased a brand new 169173 from an AD in Spain and its random serial begins with G. I've seen letters appear anywhere within a random serial.
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Is the first random serial a "U"? I believe I have seen some random serial's beginning with letters. Last date coded serials were G's and the randoms started mid 2010.
Yes it starts with a U’
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Old 8 May 2021, 04:56 AM   #12
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Could be a coincidence but yes they’ve had random serials for a long time. I very much doubt Rolex would generate a random serial number that then appears to age a watch from before it was even made. Odd.


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Do you think I should take it back to the jewelry store who sold it to me and try to figure this out?
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Old 9 May 2021, 04:48 PM   #13
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Random serials have 8 characters, can start with alpha or a numeric.

Prior to this, alpha serials (L/R thru 'G') had only 7 characters in 'total', and always start with alpha.
My 114060 (2014) SN starts with W and has 8 characters in total.
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Old 9 May 2021, 09:07 PM   #14
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The sandblasted clasp would mean 2012-2015. I think they transitioned to a polished clasp late 2015 or early 2016.
this is 100% correct.
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Yes it starts with a U’
Not true any Random 8 digit serial could start with any letter or even a number, no matter the year introduction.
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Do you think I should take it back to the jewelry store who sold it to me and try to figure this out?
What's to figure out?

Whatever site you used to "date" your watch is wrong
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Old 10 May 2021, 05:21 AM   #17
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Do you think I should take it back to the jewelry store who sold it to me and try to figure this out?
No. You are mistaking your serial number. It’s a random serial number so it all matches up. Forget the letter U in a random serial. It means nothing.

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-serial-numbers
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Old 13 May 2021, 01:26 AM   #18
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No. You are mistaking your serial number. It’s a random serial number so it all matches up. Forget the letter U in a random serial. It means nothing.

https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-serial-numbers
I really appreciate your feedback, so my watch is good then? I’m confused, sorry…
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Old 13 May 2021, 01:30 AM   #19
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What's to figure out?

Whatever site you used to "date" your watch is wrong
Thank you for your input “TOOLS” I really appreciate it. I’m apologetic for being confusing…so can I say my watch is good then?
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Old 13 May 2021, 01:32 AM   #20
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What's to figure out?

Whatever site you used to "date" your watch is wrong
Agreed. A lot of people flock to Bob's watches directory but that is completely wrong for anything recent as of like 2014 I think.
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Thank you for your input “TOOLS” I really appreciate it. I’m apologetic for being confusing…so can I say my watch is good then?
Dude, no need to take it back and yes it is still “good”. Just wear it, enjoy it, and don’t waste brain power on that nonsense. As long as it’s your watch and you love/like it, that’s all that matters.
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Think the OP wants to know is it’s fake or not. Could you post a picture?


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Old 13 May 2021, 03:39 AM   #23
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Thank you for your input “TOOLS” I really appreciate it. I’m apologetic for being confusing…so can I say my watch is good then?
I would say that if your watch is authentic and post-2010, the serial number can start with any number or letter, including a 'U'; it does not mean that the watch was made in 1996 - a physical impossibility.

Internet charts or dating apps can only be used for approximating the manufacture date for pre-2010 watches.
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Can we start with the question: is the serial number 7 or 8 characters? to skip all the confusion.
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Old 13 May 2021, 09:58 AM   #27
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If you are really worried, there are many experts here who can help you get some general sense of the authenticity. Alternatively, for a more detailed analysis (i.e., they check out the movement), you can always have the watch professionally authenticated.
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Old 13 May 2021, 01:08 PM   #28
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I don’t know how to size the pictures, can I send the pictures to someone on here to post for me?
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can we start with the question: Is the serial number 7 or 8 characters? To skip all the confusion.
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Dude, no need to take it back and yes it is still “good”. Just wear it, enjoy it, and don’t waste brain power on that nonsense. As long as it’s your watch and you love/like it, that’s all that matters.
Thank you brother, your so cool👍
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