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Spectre38 · 12 May 2021, 10:39 PM

So while at work I couldn't help but place my 16710 under the microscope and I found something a bit concerning... I assume the lettering under Rolex, where it reads Oyster Perpetual are supposed to be 600 μm... But as you can see, it's not.

I may just let it slide...

nicon · 12 May 2021, 10:44 PM

It's complete garbage, I'll take it from you for free, I can even pay for shipping :).

SN13 · 12 May 2021, 10:46 PM

I'd be more concerned that there is a little 3 μm wiggle in the E lettering ROLEX... send it back and demand a new watch!

Someone will be along to tell you to put away the microscope but those people are just defenders of Rolex poor QC these days....

Master_Grogu · 12 May 2021, 10:49 PM

Obviously the AD sold you either a refurbished watch, or should train its staff to use electron microscopes to check the (poor) quality of the products!

A true shame, my Rolex is my life and my tool upon which my income depends. I would be livid in your stead! Ask them to provide you a full refund and 2 SS models (below MSRP) immediately, lest you write a stern letter to HQ in Geneva!

rolexest · 12 May 2021, 10:52 PM

If this post is serious you have issues

Spectre38 · 12 May 2021, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rolexest

If this post is serious you have issues

Not serious... even in the slightest. More of a parody of what is seen a lot of times.

SN13 · 12 May 2021, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexest

If this post is serious you have issues

It's a real sad state when you're not 100% sure that this post is satire.

Spectre38 · 12 May 2021, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SN13

I'd be more concerned that there is a little 3 μm wiggle in the E lettering ROLEX...

Holy Cow! There IS a wiggle... I didn't even see that, now I am really stressed.

arcampado · 12 May 2021, 11:40 PM

What a disgrace. Demand a refund!

Walster · 12 May 2021, 11:41 PM

No more loupes??? We’re on to microscopes now. Good grief!

denmanproject · 12 May 2021, 11:41 PM

Don't let Padi see this

bp1000 · 12 May 2021, 11:44 PM

Unacceptable, needs a re-dial.

p.s. love this, do you have more imaging ?

garyk · 12 May 2021, 11:46 PM

Hahaha.....

enjoythemusic · 13 May 2021, 12:02 AM

Looks like you posted a fake Rolex. You are now commanded to send it to me for slow, multi decade-long 'destruction' on my wrist.

gerry100 · 13 May 2021, 12:13 AM

what was the ambient temperature?

Could it be "shrinkage"?

Spectre38 · 13 May 2021, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bp1000

Unacceptable, needs a re-dial.

p.s. love this, do you have more imaging ?

I only took the one shot for fun... but may take more in the future.

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Originally Posted by gerry100

what was the ambient temperature?

Could it be "shrinkage"?

Good call... however it was in a cleanroom, with constant temperature and humidity. The scope is calibrated accordingly.

bp1000 · 13 May 2021, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gerry100

what was the ambient temperature?

Could it be "shrinkage"?

On the money here. Linear expansion coefficient for brass is 19x10-6 per degree C. Needs to get pretty cold though. I'd say that's where your extra microns have gone.

Spectre38 · 13 May 2021, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bp1000

On the money here. Linear expansion coefficient for brass is 19x10-6 per degree C. Needs to get pretty cold though. I'd say that's where your extra microns have gone.

stanleyleecm · 13 May 2021, 12:33 AM

For a mass production watch, it is not too bad.

77T · 13 May 2021, 12:40 AM

Where is Peter???

“Attention TRF mods …Clean up on the Rolex Discussion aisle.”

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Spectre38 · 13 May 2021, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Where is Peter???

“Attention TRF mods …Clean up on the Rolex Discussion aisle.”

Paul! Seriously? You're telling Padi on me!? Dude, from a fellow Paul... that's just uncalled for.

joli160 · 13 May 2021, 01:23 AM

Nice shot

aparker973 · 13 May 2021, 01:47 AM

Error dial. Put it up on the next Phillips auction. 6 figures EZ.

kanderson1965 · 13 May 2021, 01:54 AM

Do you have a published uncertainty value for your measurement?

Thuilln · 13 May 2021, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexest

If this post is serious you have issues

If you’re serious you have issues.

Tools · 13 May 2021, 02:40 AM

That's what the warranty is for, manufacturing errors.

Tikandtokalot · 13 May 2021, 02:48 AM

I'm waiting for the second in command reply.

CharlesN · 13 May 2021, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre38

So while at work I couldn't help but place my 16710 under the microscope and I found something a bit concerning... I assume the lettering under Rolex, where it reads Oyster Perpetual are supposed to be 600 μm... But as you can see, it's not.

The spacing is correct. It is 600 μm.

You are measuring centre line to centre line.

Try measuring outer to outer line.

You can relax now Problem solved.

Lithographica · 13 May 2021, 03:23 AM

On the contrary, I think your microscope software needs to be recalibrated. It's off by 0.558 μm. Pfft... must be Nikon...

Spectre38 · 13 May 2021, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kanderson1965

Do you have a published uncertainty value for your measurement?

Ken, I would have to check with our metrology dept. for the uncertainty value. The calibration certification is current, so it "should" be relatively accurate. There is going to be some variability... but should it be this far off?

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Originally Posted by Lithographica

On the contrary, I think your microscope software needs to be recalibrated. It's off by 0.558 μm. Pfft... must be Nikon...

Whoa... it's not Nikon, but it sounds like somebody doesn't like Nikon. Just going by your "Lithographica" name... youre what... An ASML guy? EVG? SUSS? Canon, Ultratech?

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Master_Grogu Banned Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Tokyo Posts: 969	Obviously the AD sold you either a refurbished watch, or should train its staff to use electron microscopes to check the (poor) quality of the products! A true shame, my Rolex is my life and my tool upon which my income depends. I would be livid in your stead! Ask them to provide you a full refund and 2 SS models (below MSRP) immediately, lest you write a stern letter to HQ in Geneva!

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