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Old 7 September 2021, 01:51 PM   #1
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Can this be restored?

Can it be done? By profession of course. How much will it cost me? Thank you guys.



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Old 7 September 2021, 02:21 PM   #2
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Not sure why you blacked-out the dial (though, I can see that it’s a 1016). Do you mean the case? Not sure what you’re asking with only a partially revealed watch with a missing bezel.
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Old 7 September 2021, 02:33 PM   #3
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Take off the rear cover and photo the movement.
And a better dial picture too.
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Old 7 September 2021, 03:06 PM   #4
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The dial and the movement are fine. The bezel got some rust on it. The rust on the case is what I want to know about if it can be restored.
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Old 7 September 2021, 09:04 PM   #5
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That could be removed in less than 5 minutes
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Old 7 September 2021, 09:27 PM   #6
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The dial and the movement are fine. The bezel got some rust on it. The rust on the case is what I want to know about if it can be restored.
Thats dead skin. Oils, etc. A toothbrush and some soapy water should have that looking clean in a jiffy.
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Old 7 September 2021, 10:22 PM   #7
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The dial and the movement are fine. The bezel got some rust on it. The rust on the case is what I want to know about if it can be restored.
I tend to think that if one is asking for free advice from members of the forum community, it is simple courtesy to show photos of the watch and share a bit of information.

If one has something to hide, then maybe one shouldn't post the watch on the internet at all.
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Old 7 September 2021, 11:36 PM   #8
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I tend to think that if one is asking for free advice from members of the forum community, it is simple courtesy to show photos of the watch and share a bit of information.

If one has something to hide, then maybe one shouldn't post the watch on the internet at all.
Oh, I’m sorry if that’s it the etiquette. Let me see if my friend can revert back to original and I’ll post it again.
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Old 7 September 2021, 11:39 PM   #9
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The rust on the case can likely be fairly easily removed by a competent watch service tech. Once removed a pressure test would need to be done to determine if there is pitting which could potentially allow water ingress.

If the pressure test fails, you would either have to be very cautious with how you use the watch (e.g. avoid getting it wet) or explore ways to repair any pitting. I'm no expert but laser welding may be an option?

Any approach may impact the future resale value.
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Old 8 September 2021, 02:54 PM   #10
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It is said that there are no stupid questions, however if you (or your friend) don’t know enough about vintage watches to answer this, I don’t think you should be cracking them apart.
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Old 8 September 2021, 03:01 PM   #11
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It is said that there are no stupid questions, however if you (or your friend) don’t know enough about vintage watches to answer this, I don’t think you should be cracking them apart.
We didn’t. Hahaha I’m not that stupid.
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Old 8 September 2021, 03:02 PM   #12
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The rust on the case can likely be fairly easily removed by a competent watch service tech. Once removed a pressure test would need to be done to determine if there is pitting which could potentially allow water ingress.

If the pressure test fails, you would either have to be very cautious with how you use the watch (e.g. avoid getting it wet) or explore ways to repair any pitting. I'm no expert but laser welding may be an option?

Any approach may impact the future resale value.
Thank you. That’s answering my questions.
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Old 8 September 2021, 11:15 PM   #13
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I tend to think that if one is asking for free advice from members of the forum community, it is simple courtesy to show photos of the watch and share a bit of information.

If one has something to hide, then maybe one shouldn't post the watch on the internet at all.
Well said, Dan. And OP, why did you black out the dial in the first place?
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Old 8 September 2021, 11:22 PM   #14
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Well said, Dan. And OP, why did you black out the dial in the first place?
I didn’t, my friend did. I asked this for him. He doesn’t have an account here also he’s not comfortable enough to write in English so I did it for him. You probably can tell English is my second language too I’m sorry if this offends so many members here.
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Old 9 September 2021, 12:02 AM   #15
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Thank you I’m about to get a quote from one of a member here.
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Old 9 September 2021, 01:21 AM   #16
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I didn’t, my friend did. I asked this for him. He doesn’t have an account here also he’s not comfortable enough to write in English so I did it for him. You probably can tell English is my second language too I’m sorry if this offends so many members here.
OK, so why did your friend black out the dial? Not sure what language has to do with his decision.
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Old 9 September 2021, 01:42 AM   #17
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OK, so why did your friend black out the dial? Not sure what language has to do with his decision.
He didn’t own a watch at the time, he felt like it was a bad form to post something that’s not his yet. Now there’s an agreement to buy it I think we can post pictures.
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Old 9 September 2021, 01:54 AM   #18
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Can it be done? By profession of course. How much will it cost me? Thank you guys.
First it needs to be neutralized so that it doesn't continue to rust, then a light cut can be made on a lathe so the surface is flat. There is no reason to completely fill in this area as it is under the bezel where cosmetics are less of a concern.

Contact Bob Ridley at Watchmakers International in Texas for a professional evaluation and cost estimate.
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Old 9 September 2021, 02:40 AM   #19
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First it needs to be neutralized so that it doesn't continue to rust, then a light cut can be made on a lathe so the surface is flat. There is no reason to completely fill in this area as it is under the bezel where cosmetics are less of a concern.

Contact Bob Ridley at Watchmakers International in Texas for a professional evaluation and cost estimate.
Thank you for another info. I have tried so many people, but got no answer at all. One of the member reached out to help this morning. Hopefully this turn out good.
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Old 9 September 2021, 04:28 AM   #20
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I'm glad you got a sensible answer
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Old 9 September 2021, 05:12 AM   #21
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Oddest onyx dial I have ever seen, worth millions!
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