Question regarding APH dials.

[Onequik135i]

What’s the percentage of APH dials produced during 2010 - 2015 ? I hear these are the more rare dials to find but when I do a current search on Chrono all I see are APH dials listed during these production years. I haven’t followed up on the black dials so much but more so focused on white dials.

[Kyle3130]

[Pinchy]

I'm sorry but... who really gives a toss?

[dcash0615]

APH dial = not rare

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Pinchy

I'm sorry but... who really gives a toss?

People on a Rolex discussion forum...some of whom indulged your threads.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

What’s the percentage of APH dials produced during 2010 - 2015 ? I hear these are the more rare dials to find but when I do a current search on Chrono all I see are APH dials listed during these production years. I haven’t followed up on the black dials so much but more so focused on white dials.

All these internet terms like APH dials are used mainly by sellers to extract more money from buyers with terms like rare etc.In the real world dials are made in 3 different factories now all owned by Rolex.So there always have been, and always will be tiny variations to dials,dial fonts, dial colours, bezel colours, etc.

[bp1000]

10s of 1000s

Wouldn’t get hung up on it. Just like the flat 4, could easily be replaced during a service.

[nr1416]

I see lots of white APH dials, well over a third of 116520s from 2010 on are. Also agree it's something that has been pumped up by sellers over the years as a selling point. I wouldn't get caught up in finding a APH dial, by condition first.

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[karteo]

i got an APH dial and it keeps better price and is more good looking

ps. nobody cares. that story of finding irregularities to increase price is pathetic.

[Meg007]

My friend purchased a white Daytona back in 2003. If you place it on a white sheet of paper it looks cream. Is this a APH dial??

[JonaG]

Is this Q pertaining to a TRF classified I saw? The usual *RARE* APH dial blurb. The usual sellers of *RARE* 16710 stick dial? Error dial etc etc. Looks like you have a sweet collection, I’d just add an excellent condition 116520 unless you really want this so called APH dial.

[poliwog]

Non aph dials are in fact rarer than APH dials especially on the white dial 116520s.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by Pinchy

I'm sorry but... who really gives a toss?

Unfortunately many. How about the so called gmt stick dials, flat whatever, or mark 1,2, 85 1/8th dials/bezels. So called “patina” is just old and worn. Plenty out there but if there is a way for someone to make a buck, and let’s face it the Rolex crowd is clearly the group to make a buck on (new gray dealers every day).

[Master_Grogu]

Reference 116520 replaced its predecessor reference 16520 in 2000. It most notably features caliber 4130, which is Rolex’s first in-house chronograph movement. Today, it is an iconic model, representing one of Rolex's many technical strides throughout horological history.

The present watch is an extremely rare variant within the 116520 family, and is nicknamed the "APH Daytona" due to its dial configuration. Produced between approximately 2011 to 2014, this version displays a gap between the "R" and "APH" in "Cosmograph" on the dial. It is incredibly rare to find this dial version, no less in such original and crisp condition. The present watch is furthermore accompanied by its original guarantee and numbered hang tag.

[JonaG]

Originally Posted by Master_Grogu

Reference 116520 replaced its predecessor reference 16520 in 2000. It most notably features caliber 4130, which is Rolex’s first in-house chronograph movement. Today, it is an iconic model, representing one of Rolex's many technical strides throughout horological history.

The present watch is an extremely rare variant within the 116520 family, and is nicknamed the "APH Daytona" due to its dial configuration. Produced between approximately 2011 to 2014, this version displays a gap between the "R" and "APH" in "Cosmograph" on the dial. It is incredibly rare to find this dial version, no less in such original and crisp condition. The present watch is furthermore accompanied by its original guarantee and numbered hang tag.

Yeah, generally avoid the ads that give you a Roman history of the model.

[1665fan]

Aph is not extremely rare…..there are way more white aph than black aph….I have also seen aph used as a service dial on earlier 116520….

If you want rare you need to look for early thin hand cream dial not aph dial…

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by Meg007

My friend purchased a white Daytona back in 2003. If you place it on a white sheet of paper it looks cream. Is this a APH dial??

No that’s a cream dial lol…. Not aph

[sp5702]

APH dials are a marketing gimmick from re-sellers. They’re not rare. Feel like some try to talk about them like the floating “chronograph” Zeniths.

[brandrea]

In the vintage world, it’s all about the fonts and dial “rarities” IMO

[Master_Grogu]

Originally Posted by JonaG

Yeah, generally avoid the ads that give you a Roman history of the model.

Gotcha, will avoid Phillips Geneva watch auctions.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

What’s the percentage of APH dials produced during 2010 - 2015 ? I hear these are the more rare dials to find but when I do a current search on Chrono all I see are APH dials listed during these production years. I haven’t followed up on the black dials so much but more so focused on white dials.

Nobody could answer this question.

The APH dial was a complete production run of dials, then they were used as needed to assemble Daytonas for several years, along with other production runs.

Like rail dials, and other variations, they have just caught the attention of those who pore over every detail.

[VegasBaby]

Originally Posted by Meg007

My friend purchased a white Daytona back in 2003. If you place it on a white sheet of paper it looks cream. Is this a APH dial??

Oh dear God.........

[Daveclock]

Originally Posted by Meg007

My friend purchased a white Daytona back in 2003. If you place it on a white sheet of paper it looks cream. Is this a APH dial??

No, that is a cream dial as someone said earlier - these can be very valuable depending on colour/patina/Wabi-Sabi etc.

As for APH I will just say as below as a quick answer,

The name derives from the ”COSMOGRAPH” printing on the dial.
On these versions, this wording is actually printed ”COSMOGR APH”

I noted with amusement on one of the Timepiece Gentleman videos that they did not understand what an APH dial was and also thought their customers would not care or understand either. (made me double - chuckle!)

[lamkinpark]

APH is not rare at all, you can find 1 easily for year 2010 onwards.

[ROLEXster]

APH dial.
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[padi56]

Originally Posted by lamkinpark

APH is not rare at all, you can find 1 easily for year 2010 onwards.

Well if its quoted as being rare on the likes of Youtube or so called social media it must be true, as many today rely of this stuff to do there thinking and make there minds up for them.

[karteo]

My precious but not...rare
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[jrox]

APH is very common and I would get annoyed to see it long term. That's why I prefer non APH dial