Thinking of buying a Submariner

[m j b]

I got rid of my 114060 because it was kind of large and bulky looking on my svelte waif-like wrists. But nothing I've gotten since then, be it Omega, Tudor, and some not-quite-micro brands have done it for me, either in comfort or looks.

All I've got now is my Tudor BB58 in blue, on a bracelet, which is great and fits me well. But the bracelet isn't quite at Oyster level, and I'm not crazy about straps.

I keep coming back to the roughly $5K delta between the Rolex and Tudor, and it just seems kind of silly to pay all of that money.

Yeah, I know, several years ago I had multiple Rolexes including PM, and it didn't bother me. Am I getting older?

Thoughts, opinions, comments?

[doboy007]

New 124060 wears even bigger so worse than 114060.

[Seddyspaghetti]

Get another sub. Yolo!

[RoRoRo]

YM40 is your friend.

[robinmgb]

Originally Posted by doboy007

New 124060 wears even bigger so worse than 114060.

I found the 124060 wore slightly smaller than the 114060 when I tried them side by side today.
I know the case has increased by 1mm but with the slimmer lugs the 41mm model appeared smaller to my eyes!

[AdamW]

Just picked up a new 41mm Sub Date this weekend. Wears NOTHING like my prior 6 digit. I had a bluesy that I sold because it was just to heavy for me and the super case was just too much. This one sits better, is better balanced and just is so much more comfortable. Also, as much as I've tried with Omega, I still come back to nothing feels like a Rolex!

[Mendota]

Originally Posted by AdamW

Just picked up a new 41mm Sub Date this weekend. Wears NOTHING like my prior 6 digit. I had a bluesy that I sold because it was just to heavy for me and the super case was just too much. This one sits better, is better balanced and just is so much more comfortable. Also, as much as I've tried with Omega, I still come back to nothing feels like a Rolex!

I can't wait to get my call. The last time I was in at my AD he handed me his own 116610 to try on while we were talking and looking at vintage pieces and I loved it. He said from the limited 12 series ones they have received since it was released, it's even better and if I liked his 11, I would love the 12 series!

[AdamW]

Originally Posted by Mendota

I can't wait to get my call. The last time I was in at my AD he handed me his own 116610 to try on while we were talking and looking at vintage pieces and I loved it. He said from the limited 12 series ones they have received since it was released, it's even better and if I liked his 11, I would love the 12 series!

The difference between the 11 and 12 is substantial I think. Good luck! You'll be happy when you get it I promise.

[doboy007]

Originally Posted by robinmgb

I found the 124060 wore slightly smaller than the 114060 when I tried them side by side today.
I know the case has increased by 1mm but with the slimmer lugs the 41mm model appeared smaller to my eyes!

For me, it wears bigger than my Hulk. Enough to irritate me a bit.

[aayates]

Originally Posted by doboy007

New 124060 wears even bigger so worse than 114060.

I've had both and the 41mm fits better on a "not so large wrist" due to the lugs being thinner.

[greenlight77]

I’d suggest getting an older 4/5 digit sub that’s in “used” condition both to keep the cost down and allow you to wear it without being scared of devaluing due to condition.
They tend to work better on smaller wrists and even though the premium over the Tudor will still be there over the long term value should hold/appreciate more.


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[1665fan]

16610 is what you need it sounds like……great watch

[Soarer]

Why force yourself? Tudor BB58 is the best for smaller wrist and you already have the Blue so rejoice and order the Black! Or you can look at the 5-digit Sub.


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[asiparks]

Originally Posted by m j b

I keep coming back to the roughly $5K delta between the Rolex and Tudor, and it just seems kind of silly to pay all of that money.

Thoughts, opinions, comments?

The blue BB58 is a very handsome watch, it does everything the Sub does in a slightly more under the radar, I'd argue cooler, way.

The extra $5k buys you, perhaps, a marginally better watch with a slightly nicer bracelet and more "flex" as the kids would say, but that's also almost another whole other luxury watch by itself.

[shaunylw]

5 digit sub is going to fit the best, especially if you thought the 40mm 114060 was too big. I have the BB58 and it wears much much smaller than the new sub.


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[jerseydan31]

40mm Ceramic Sub is your friend (or in this case it was). Tudor BB58 checks all of the boxes you are looking for...but it does not say the world 'Rolex' on the dial (which is a stigma for many). The BB58 is a great watch for those whom already have a sub (can treat it as your grab n go piece). 5 digit sub is also a great option but harder to flip in case you fall out of love with it. Just my 2 pennies.

Have owned the 11610LN, BB58 and the 16800.....40mm Sub is far down best compromise if you want something that exudes Rolex quality. But 'apples to apples' BB58 hands down blows the no-date sub out of the water for sure.

[dnuggett]

The Sub 41 is the best daily wear watch made today.. IMO. I also have 7.5" wrists, so I see why you may struggle with it. I'd suggest looking at the 39mm Explorer that has been disco'd.

[m j b]

Thanks guys!

[lmarques16]

More than happy with my 41 sub and I have a 6” wrist. Go for it !

[Scaramanga74]

Originally Posted by m j b

Thanks guys!

I had a 16610 which was great. Traded it for a 124060 and hasn´t looked back. The new case is just brilliant and sits really nice.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by doboy007

New 124060 wears even bigger so worse than 114060.

Personally I find it the exact opposite. Despite it's "point something of a mm" increase in size, the lug shape makes the 124060 wear smaller IMO.

[Benzsiam]

If you preferred smaller size, go for Explorer I.

[liberalclown]

12 series are only 0.3mm larger in diameter but thinner lugs and thinner height make a huge difference in wearability. Try it on a grey or an AD with exhibition only models, you will like it.

[OG1982]

I too bought, fell in love with and quickly fell out with a BB58 blue. I know its against popular opinion on here but the watch is good, just not Submariner good.

[Maiden]

Go for a 16610. You won’t regret it.


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[WatchNutcase]

Originally Posted by robinmgb

I found the 124060 wore slightly smaller than the 114060 when I tried them side by side today.
I know the case has increased by 1mm but with the slimmer lugs the 41mm model appeared smaller to my eyes!

I find the 124060 to wear larger with the roomier dial, longer lugs, and wider bracelet / clasp.

[WatchNutcase]

Originally Posted by doboy007

New 124060 wears even bigger so worse than 114060.

+1 same experience here

[WatchNutcase]

Originally Posted by m j b

I got rid of my 114060 because it was kind of large and bulky looking on my svelte waif-like wrists. But nothing I've gotten since then, be it Omega, Tudor, and some not-quite-micro brands have done it for me, either in comfort or looks.

All I've got now is my Tudor BB58 in blue, on a bracelet, which is great and fits me well. But the bracelet isn't quite at Oyster level, and I'm not crazy about straps.

I keep coming back to the roughly $5K delta between the Rolex and Tudor, and it just seems kind of silly to pay all of that money.

Yeah, I know, several years ago I had multiple Rolexes including PM, and it didn't bother me. Am I getting older?

Thoughts, opinions, comments?

What size wrist do you have?

I have the 114060 with relatively small wrists at 6.5 inches, but flat wrists. Love the 114060 and find it fits well, but definitely couldn't go larger than this.

It can feel slightly chunky at times but this is a dive watch, and I find the visual proportions look great and it's not large looking. It's difficult to find a slim and lightweight wearing dive watch because that's not what they're designed to be, if that's the look you're after maybe something on the dressier side would work. Maybe even a chrono but those tend to also be thicker because of the movement and with larger dials for timing things with good legibility.

Also the moderns Subs are some of the slimmest modern dive watches on the market, check out Omega and GS both with thicker offerings. The only way to find something smaller is to go vintage or to buy a vintage reissue from a brand like Oris for example.

[rmagoo57]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

16610 is what you need it sounds like……great watch

Agree. Or the 14060M which is slightly smaller.

I would also consider the 16570 Exp II, black dial. All are great watches!

[Ketler]

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