Common sense answer to empty cases…

[DonRickles]

Because greys pay over msrp!

Go!

Us mear mortals must overbid these suckers!

[absoluteczech]

Great thread. Would read again

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by absoluteczech

Great thread. Would read again

I love my audience!

Are you from CR?

[Watch This]

It's a CIA plot you hockey puck.

[absoluteczech]

Originally Posted by DonRickles

Are you from CR?

Yes I'm from Costa Rica

[vh2k]

Tens of thousands of units sold every month. Thousands of reports of customers paying MSRP. ZERO reports of customers paying over MSRP. COMMON SENSE.

[zengineer]

I was going to go with more demand than supply combined with buyers willing to pay stupid prices and rationalize that they aren't being played with since blaming grey dealers makes no sense...but the CIA plot is starting to grow on me.

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[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by vh2k

Tens of thousands of units sold every month. Thousands of reports of customers paying MSRP. ZERO reports of customers paying over MSRP. COMMON SENSE.

I never said that….like the grey is going to sign on here and admit they back door….

Originally Posted by zengineer

I was going to go with more demand than supply combined with buyers willing to pay stupid prices and rationalize that they aren't being played with since blaming grey dealers makes no sense...but the CIA plot is starting to grow on me.

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Listen you two Hockey pucks…

You both have your heads in the sand if you don’t think this is the “case”…..

The watches never have a chance of seeing a display case because they’re sold before they come in… To whom guess who…. Not joe public….

Public demand at sticker vs secondary demand at the sky…. Doh!!!!

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by absoluteczech

Yes I'm from Costa Rica

Boy you’re funny…..

I was about to ask for your advice but….

[VegasBaby]

More like Nonsense than common sense.....

[DonRickles]

What do you guys think this is kindergarten?

It’s all about the mighty dollar! A few grand sent to a salesman no questions asked Boom, you got your Daytona.

Come on now…

Nobody here can compete with the relationship of a tied in grey….period!

[Cloudchaser]

Originally Posted by absoluteczech

Yes I'm from Costa Rica

Traded jerseys after a game with a CZ national team coach a few years back. Much to my surprise, the letters on the sleeve were CR, not CZ.

I did get the joke, but I also still have the jersey; just checked it...it still reads, "CR."

[Cloudchaser]

Originally Posted by DonRickles

Boy you’re funny…..

I was about to ask for your advice but….

I got you, Don. My sister in law is from Brno, and lived in Prague for 20+ years. Glad to pass on any questions you have.

[Laszlo]

"We may not have anything in the cases right now, but you can try on any of these desirable exhibition models right here, right now, before you go buy online from one of the gray dealers. It's a new service we provide for those who aren't sure how the watch will look on their wrist before they buy elsewhere."

[zewill]

Originally Posted by absoluteczech

Great thread. Would read again

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by Cloudchaser

I got you, Don. My sister in law is from Brno, and lived in Prague for 20+ years. Glad to pass on any questions you have.

PMed ya!

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

"We may not have anything in the cases right now, but you can try on any of these desirable exhibition models right here, right now, before you go buy online from one of the gray dealers. It's a new service we provide for those who aren't sure how the watch will look on their wrist before they buy elsewhere."

Bingo!

To all you naysayers, just today have been told that I'm 100% correct by two SA's and two Greys..A percentage of KB (kick back) is paid to the SA's for each piece sent to the grey. Shop owners know nothing.

All this building a relationship BS, is not helping joe public, just another profit generatorating method....

I'll repeat, the shelves are empty because greys pay OVER MSRP.....

Any and every hyped piece walks, but a few lucky buyers, to keep face.

[Stud Screw]

Fully stocked cases tomorrow.

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by DonRickles

Because greys pay over msrp!

Go!

Us mear mortals must overbid these suckers!

I have read the numerous reply comments. Frankly I do not think that your assessment is correct.

Why? Well first off I can get the pieces I want at retail. If your theory was correct then I would not, since as you say “the mighty dollar” would always prevail.

Secondly, I know some of these ADs. I mean personally. So I would have picked up upon some inkling of these shenanigans. I haven’t.

My 2 cents.

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by inadeje

I have read the numerous reply comments. Frankly I do not think that your assessment is correct.

Why? Well first off I can get the pieces I want at retail. If your theory was correct then I would not, since as you say “the mighty dollar” would always prevail.

Secondly, I know some of these ADs. I mean personally. So I would have picked up upon some inkling of these shenanigans. I haven’t.

My 2 cents.

Ok, you're welcome to hold the opinion posted. I have first hand proof from greys. It's what's going on. Yes, "some" pieces have to go through the front door as I said. But the majority are going straight to the grey even many more in this climate.

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by Stud Screw

Fully stocked cases tomorrow.

Hmmm, greys are fully stocked BNIB with stickers......

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by DonRickles

Ok, you're welcome to hold the opinion posted. I have first hand proof from greys. It's what's going on. Yes, "some" pieces have to go through the front door as I said. But the majority are going straight to the grey even many more in this climate.

In that case It would be extremely helpful if you could expand upon your cryptic post by substantiating these claims with said proof.

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by inadeje

In that case It would be extremely helpful if you could expand upon your cryptic post by substantiating these claims with said proof.

Let me answer this by saying, I was told this information and asked not to reveal from who. But I'll try to give you some insight.

To quote from an earlier email this morning.....

"I wanted to share with you my approach.

I grease palms of SAs at 10% of my net profit...every time, but only on a BNIB flip; margins on everything else are extraordinarily thin (10% if I'm lucky). The store owners have no idea.

Your suspicion is 100% accurate. Most SAs do not work on commission. Sharing the wealth with them, underpaid as they are, is the obvious secret."

Does this satisfy you?

[Gab27]

Again, I think an AD can make more money selling most of these items to customers directly rather than secondary dealers.

In terms of why they are not in the cases, the reason is because it would make it much harder to decline selling to someone who is deemed to have insufficient economic value.

[enjoythemusic]

Don, you really missed your calling...
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...as a Rolex stockboy.

[Boaters]

Now this thread is making sense...lol. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Don, you really missed your calling...
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...as a Rolex stockboy.

Bunch of Hockey pucks ignoring the blatant truth.....

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by DonRickles

Let me answer this by saying, I was told this information and asked not to reveal from who. But I'll try to give you some insight.

To quote from an earlier email this morning.....

"I wanted to share with you my approach.

I grease palms of SAs at 10% of my net profit...every time, but only on a BNIB flip; margins on everything else are extraordinarily thin (10% if I'm lucky). The store owners have no idea.

Your suspicion is 100% accurate. Most SAs do not work on commission. Sharing the wealth with them, underpaid as they are, is the obvious secret."

Does this satisfy you?

Hey Listen, I love a little late night conspiracy theories to spice up the evening. Nevertheless, one needs to consider several points. Firstly, the large US chains sell probably 90% of Rolex watches in the US. They have numerous layers of management. They have software and systems in place that track every single purchase. I know for a fact that they have auditors studying this software full time and not just for accounting errors. Each purchasers name is added to each sale. Said purchaser has a “history” visible on said software. Therefore, lets just say that your contact is in said system as a kosher buyer. Quite possibly he (like me) could get one of each high demand watch. But surely you see that if I get the same variant over and over again, someone, somewhere, would quickly see this bizarre purchasing anomaly? Of course, one could assume that said auditing doesn’t exist, which would further fuel your belief in said conspiracy theory. I know for an absolute fact it does. Why? Well, I bought a BLNR, gave it to my brother as a gift (after I had worn it for some time) and around 12 months later I tried to get another and was unable to. And not because my AD said I couldn’t. In fact he sourced the watch, told me its mine but in the time it took me to get over there he called me back (while I was enroute) to say “hey, I’ve been told by head office you can’t have it because you had one 18 months ago”. So…they know…even if your immediate AD forgets, head office has back-office control.

[DonRickles]

Originally Posted by inadeje

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I've given you enough. As above, I welcome you to keep your own opinion......

The proof you asked for is posted and it's directly from the horse, not hearsay....

Believe as you feel fit, my good friend!

[teck21]

I would not call a thread boring because that would make me the fool for clicking on it.

However I think I shall disregard posts on ADs are selling straight to greys until I see some guilty ADs named.

There’s ‘proof’ everywhere and not a single name. Really weird.

With proof of claim comes absolute defense against legal action after all.

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