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Did Vacheron increase prices on the Overseas?
Just looked and MSRP for the standard steel 4500 Overseas in silver, black, and blue dials is $25k. I could have sworn it was $19k last year? Did they go up recently?
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Last increase was middle of last year (June 2023 I believe). The previous price for the 4500v was $22,500.
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That was a pretty stiff increase.
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the 4500v is also being transitionally replaced by the 4520v (minor differences pertaining to the bracelet taper, minor changes to the rotor, and it's now very marginally thinner). so maybe the adjustment also corresponded to a slightly revised model reference. The change in price did occur before the 4520 was formally released. (and it is odd that there's been very little by way of announcements for the modifications)
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They are pricing themselves out of popularity again. Maybe that's what they want, most Overseas models available without long waits..
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Unbelievable. The price increases are absurd. They get just a LITTLE BIT popular in the last 24 months and how do they react? Drastic price increases to take advantage of their new found popularity.
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Well. Do we really feel an Overseas offers less value than a 6119 that’s 5k more expensive? Or a 5212 that’s 12k more? I don’t think so.
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I also believe that a VC does offer a comparable content value than a PP, and also has a similar heritage.
Of course the specific comparison should be made at reference level, on a case by case approach, and sometimes it could result better one maison, sometime the other. |
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the overseas will always play 2nd fiddle to the nautilus & royal oak, till they release the 222 in steel...
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It will. But that was not the comparison I was making. The 6119 and certainly the 5212 have no better finished movements than the Overseas. They also offer none of the versatility. It’s no wonder that both Pateks can be had significantly below retail while the blue Overseas (not the black and silver) trades close to or over retail still.
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There’s still a wait list for the overseas, probably in part due to the small production, so they’re not doing it wrong (at least as of today). Now JLC…. Different story. I bet their cases are overflowing.
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It's for sure going to 2nd fiddle also then. The 222 is perhaps in the league of the PP Aqua, kind of ugly beautiful in its own fun way. Even if I'm wrong and everyone loves the watch, the production numbers will be way too limited to make it a watch people know about and crave for. It will be as rare as seeing an FP Journe
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Have you ever handled a 222? It is one of the most beautiful integrated bracelet watches ever done IMHO, much better than the Aquanaut (which I always thought was way overrated). The VC boutique had actually offered me a 222, I just couldn’t pull off the yellow gold unfortunately. If they ever launch it in steel (not sure they will) I’ll buy it in a heartbeat. |
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Hope they’ll put in a different movement as well.
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Nice to see they've improved both aspects of it tho. Quote:
Aquanauts wear exceptionally comfortably and well. They are uniquely styled and are perfect for so many situations. The 222 is a completely different kind of watch. I've had the pleasure of trying one on. Thing is beautiful but it costs way too much. Over 10% more than a 5811G, and 30% more than a 7118R (which is similar sized to it). |
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Agree on the pricing of the 222. They went a bit too far with the price hike during the hype phase.
I personally find that my Overseas DT wears smaller on my wrist than any 41mm RO, which I found too large for me to pull off (for me 39mm is the perfect size for the RO). |
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