The "fanboy" hypocrisy is astounding

[Devildog]

The Submariner and Submariner date (you know the ones, SS and black on the Oyster bracelet) are praised my most on here as two of the greatest watches of all time - practically faultless.

Rolex release the GMT Master GRNR in SS (basically the same colour scheme albeit with a half grey bezel and not forgetting the more interesting jubilee bracelet option) and its "dull", "boring", "uninspiring" "underwhelming", "too monochrome" etc, etc, etc.

[thesharkfactor]

I’d have a Sub over a GRNR. ..but then I have a gmt already.

[sp3000]

It's funny, I have the red/blue GMT and right away I love the look of the black/grey.. The old GMT that was black with the green hand was beautiful and subtle, this is a nice modern version of that one, I think it's really classy and would probably be the one I'd wear more if I had both.

[travisb]

I prefer GMTs with a more standout colorful bezel.

[Mathematoxic]

In my opinion, without the colourful bezel, the amount of numbers on the bezel is really too much.

[Krash]

It’s hard to argue with your premise. But I think it’s because the Submariner and GMT are two different watches and people have different expectations for each of them.

For example, I want a black dial Sub, with a black bezel. I do think it might be the best watch ever. Certainly in the top 5.

However, when it comes to the GMT. I want a black and blue or red and blue bezel, because that’s what makes the GMT so special to me.


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[zengineer]

I don't think hypocrisy is the right term. I'm not even sure I even see an inconsistency.

People have different expectations for a new release vs a classic.

[warrior]

Astute observation…and I’d add that the Pepsi Bezel, surprisingly for me, cuts the busyness of the numbers on the bezel best….because of the two non-black colors.

Originally Posted by Mathematoxic

In my opinion, without the colourful bezel, the amount of numbers on the bezel is really too much.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by zengineer

I don't think hypocrisy is the right term. I'm not even sure I even see an inconsistency.

People have different expectations for a new release vs a classic.

Agreed. I think you can hail the sub and also be disappointed in the new GMT. I think it is a lazy release.

[nighthawk77]

Although I’m indifferent to the black grey combo, similar to above - part of my appreciation for the sub is the fact it’s relatively plain - this adds to the versatility of the watch.

With the GMTs it’s an opportunity to introduce a bit of colour.

There’s also colours in the back catalogue for the GMT (Coke) which would be a lot more desirable

[DoricSpiker]

I was hoping for the full rootbeer on a jubilee bracelet.
If it was an all black bezel I think people would say its going back to the classic look.
The best releases so far for me is the new Tudor GMT. Beautiful.

[Subshark1861]

The black/grey bezel looks great on the TT version.

[AK797]

Agree, Scott, I wrote before I think newer members expect the GMT to be red and blue and green etc, they don't know or remember when the GMT was all black so this release is too dull for them. Similarly people who say this is lazy also forget that Rolex used to release in PM first then TT and then SS, so the GRNR is going back to this traditional method as well.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by DoricSpiker

I was hoping for the full rootbeer on a jubilee bracelet.
If it was an all black bezel I think people would say its going back to the classic look.
The best releases so far for me is the new Tudor GMT. Beautiful.

I'm OK with the Oyster on my CHNR and Jub on my GRNR, if they offered to add the Jub and not replace it onto my CHNR then that would be fine.

[Marcjvr]

Milgaus or bust

[Sothy]

The rumour that the GMT bezel would always be bi-colour following the discontinuation of the black bezelled one a few years ago seems to have been true.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Krash

It’s hard to argue with your premise. But I think it’s because the Submariner and GMT are two different watches and people have different expectations for each of them.

For example, I want a black dial Sub, with a black bezel. I do think it might be the best watch ever. Certainly in the top 5.

However, when it comes to the GMT. I want a black and blue or red and blue bezel, because that’s what makes the GMT so special to me.


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[1William]

Different watches, different expectations. The GMT was at best a lazy release in my opinion. So many companies give us what they want us to have, not what we want.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Marcjvr

Milgaus or bust

Spelchek?

Great post.

[BigFig]

If the Sub had a half gray bezel, I wouldn't want it either.

[Bluside]

I like the new GMT. I already have 3 others so I really have no interest in a new one.

[Marcjvr]

Originally Posted by Andad

Spelchek?

Great post.

Not my fault, my keyboard only has 1 ‘s’

[FrankNYC]

My first GMT had a black bezel, though of all the colors out there blue and black makes the most sense. Blue for daytime and black for nighttime--it's intuitive.

[JRell]

I like the grey black GMT. I just like the sub and sub date better. For me the more black glossy ceramic the better.

[BroncoOne]

Originally Posted by sp3000

It's funny, I have the red/blue GMT and right away I love the look of the black/grey.. The old GMT that was black with the green hand was beautiful and subtle, this is a nice modern version of that one, I think it's really classy and would probably be the one I'd wear more if I had both.

I agree. I already have two GMTs or I’d have tried to add that particular one. Very subjective but the subtlety sings to me.

[904VT]

I like the new GMT Master release. I think some of the blowback was since Rolex made it seem like only bi-color bezel versions would be released. This technically is but kind of a stretch. People were probably expecting more color. I think Rolex should’ve switched it up and released with a red GMT hand as a nod to the 5 digit.

[2loaded]

Originally Posted by sp3000

It's funny, I have the red/blue GMT and right away I love the look of the black/grey.. The old GMT that was black with the green hand was beautiful and subtle, this is a nice modern version of that one, I think it's really classy and would probably be the one I'd wear more if I had both.

Agree 100%
I picked up the LN back in 2010
The GMT DNA is a night-day bi-colored bezel. Will be adding the black/grey to the collection

[MDMH]

I don’t mind the GMT although it was lazy being made of spare parts. Pretty easy to produce piece.

[Jackie Daytona]

I liked the older all black bezel insert a bit more. Nothing against those that like the grey bezel insert, it’s just odd to me as a bezel insert color I don’t get it.

[Harry-57]

I think the new SS GMT would have looked better if they hadn't forgotten to finish the lower half of the bezel. Generally speaking I don't find black bezel watches particularly inspiring. I didn't realise this made me a hypocritical fanboy but that's OK. My money my choice.