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16 June 2024, 11:00 AM | #1 |
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AD discounts for WG Sub (126619LB) Cookie Monster
AD just offered the WG Sub (Cookie Monster).
I prefer a WG GMT or Daytona, but the Cookie Monster is appealing. MSRP is $43.7 about $10k over gray. I would never sell this watch, but feels so overpriced. Has anyone had recent success getting a ~5% discount for a Cookie Monster or other WG timepieces? |
16 June 2024, 01:57 PM | #2 |
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Don't think ADs are willing to discount yet based on my experience. I bought mine 2 price increases ago (no discount + tax). It was a relationship builder fortunately (my AD for the the previous 25+ years lost their acct).
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16 June 2024, 03:49 PM | #3 | |
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2- why would anyone pay $10k more for watch that’s just as easy to obtain elsewhere. Please don’t think buying the extra $10k watch will help you ‘build a relationship’ it will make you look silly as AD’s know it can be bought cheaper
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16 June 2024, 05:16 PM | #5 |
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5%? That's only $2k off, whereas you say you can get preowned for $10k less. Why would you pay $8k more than you have to?
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16 June 2024, 05:41 PM | #6 |
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16 June 2024, 08:54 PM | #11 | |
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Any chance you could post your contact details up as I’ve loads of stuff to sell you which you could get cheaper elsewhere
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16 June 2024, 11:24 PM | #12 |
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ADs are not allowed to discount here in the US. If they do it would be grounds for loss of rights to sell the brand. And Rolex is actively looking to cut ADs and consolidate.
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16 June 2024, 11:31 PM | #13 |
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16 June 2024, 11:39 PM | #14 |
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Ah...the good old days, pre-craziness of course, where it was common practice to shop around for the best deal- from a trusted seller or the AD. The answer to that question, when posed on the forum, was usually a resounding 'get the best deal.'
Sadly, the world's gone a little crazy since, and now the push is for you to "belong" to the company (or store) you buy your precious goods from. So, in this New World Order, I don't know if the answer is as clear. I know what I would do, but I'm old, and therefore exempt from caring about the bullsh*t I see running rampant in today's world. |
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I do an awful lot of reading here and I have not once read a report of ADs discounting from retail since well before Covid.
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17 June 2024, 12:23 AM | #16 |
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Yikes, with that kind of a discount I would strongly consider grey.
I do get the appeal of having it for generations so its a tough one |
17 June 2024, 12:56 AM | #17 | |
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On the other hand, if you’re one and done then I agree there’s no point. |
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17 June 2024, 01:12 AM | #18 |
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But from the AD but just ask for a discount. I am thinking I would ask 15% to start.
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17 June 2024, 01:23 AM | #19 |
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Buy it from secondary market then take the $10k you are saving and buy an index fund, or another $10k watch from the secondary market. Don’t waste $10k for a “relationship” that might never get you another watch.
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17 June 2024, 01:23 AM | #20 |
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AD doesn’t make discount at least personal experience till now.
The Cookie Monster MUST be bought grey because cost way less. One time grey make sense…you arguing ������ |
17 June 2024, 01:27 AM | #21 |
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It doesn’t make any sense paying over the odds unless the purchase rewards the buyer in another way for at least twice the perceived loss. My 2 cents.
Example - buy the wg sub at retail and get a SS Daytona in the package.
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17 June 2024, 03:26 AM | #23 | |
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To be clear you don't have to buy this watch in particular if you don't actually want it, but generally speaking you're not getting desirable references without purchase history. An AD has no incentive to allocate a desirable watch to a customer without purchase history. |
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17 June 2024, 03:26 AM | #24 |
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I fully get why someone would pay more for a brand new watch from an AD, rather than a second hand watch of unknown history from a second-hand dealer.
But cannot get my head around spending $43k on a watch that I didn’t want, just to impress a shop salesman. I’m clearly living in a completely different financial situation to some guys on this forum |
17 June 2024, 03:35 AM | #25 |
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But wouldn’t that be classed as flipping? And something your AD would frown upon? Possibly ruling you out of further allocations. Unfortunately if you rely on AD’s for anything they have you hooked
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17 June 2024, 03:37 AM | #26 |
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pretty sure he meant in the context of getting hype pieces for yourself at msrp vs buying them grey because you have no relationship. in the long run you can end up spending less to get more even after overpaying 10k for a gold piece
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17 June 2024, 08:28 AM | #27 | |
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I work with 2 ADs and work with SAs in conjuction with management. In my area there is still too much competition to get anything in demand w/o spend history. |
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17 June 2024, 09:29 AM | #28 |
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Can’t imagine why someone would pay $43k for a watch that trades for $31-$33k. That’s some premium for a pen, chocolates, and a glass of champagne.
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17 June 2024, 09:37 AM | #29 |
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100%. Not sure why this is so hard to understand. Almost no one is getting in-demand pieces without prior spend history.
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17 June 2024, 09:40 AM | #30 |
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It wasn't all that long ago that virtually all watches dropped 50 percent or more from retail once bought. But nobody cared back then. People bought watches to wear, usually just one for a lifetime. It was a cost of living so to speak.
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