5513 Winding Stem Help

[zkramez]

I have a 1972 5513 Sub.

The winding stem broke during an unfortunate drop.

I have been searching for a new one. I cannot seem to find one. I ordered a few on Ebay and the threads are too large.

I found out I have a 7020 crown. Everyone says the stem is 1mm. I think it is smaller.

Anyone know?

[antrolexsub]

Ignore tap sizes, most supply house’s have them wrong, it should be a 0.9mm stem or Tap 10 if listed correctly. Most supply house’s list a tap 10 at 1.0mm which isn’t right.

[zkramez]

Originally Posted by antrolexsub

Ignore tap sizes, most supply house’s have them wrong, it should be a 0.9mm stem or Tap 10 if listed correctly. Most supply house’s list a tap 10 at 1.0mm which isn’t right.

Gotcha. So what is the correct size? Because the one I got was too large.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by zkramez

Gotcha. So what is the correct size? Because the one I got was too large.

What we have here, is a failure to communicate.

[77T]

Aftermarket stems are usually made to fit the movement and they presume you will have the correct crown.

For example, the same stem for yours would fit non-quickset movements in many calibers 15xx for your Submariner 55xx.

Wish I could help more but maybe you've got a mixup - 7020 isn't a crown, it's a tube, right? So maybe your crown wasn't right for your 5513 and caliber inside?

Linesiders made a post last year that said:
Mid 70s 5513 should be a 702 Three Dot Crown and 7020 Tube....


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[antrolexsub]

Originally Posted by zkramez

Gotcha. So what is the correct size? Because the one I got was too large.

0.9mm

[zkramez]

Thank you!

[Dom9]

7020 tube with a 702 crown.

Winding stem should be 0.9mm.

Post some pictures of the watch so we can confirm crown, tube and stem?

[zkramez]

Can someone send a link to the proper stem?I still can’t find one.

[Andad]

If the answer was not in post 5, 6 or 8 you may have to source a quote from a RSC or a watchmaker?

Possible previous mismatch of parts?

[Dom9]

Throw some pics up OP so we can check all parts are original/authentic?

Considering the relative ease of mixing and matching Rolex crowns on the same stem; this seems odd.

As Andad says; possible mismatch of parts: Non-genuine crown or stem?

[TimeToGo]

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/224058091380

[zkramez]

I tried to upload the photos but it’s impossible. I have no clue how to change the size. It says the max is 1250 x 1250. I am not tech savvy enough to figure that out.

I have a genuine crown fitted to a 702 tube according to a local watch maker.

[zkramez]

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/224058091380

I just bought this. I’ll let you know if it works!

[TimeToGo]

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Hey OP, you were asked to post pictures to denote if anything was fake..

well.....

I looked at a previous thread you posted on April 2024 and you mention:

"I just inherited my grandfathers 5513. In the 2010s it was in a fire and he didn’t have the case replaced by Rolex. I guess back then the watch wasn’t worth what it is now.

Anyway… they put an aftermarket case on. It really bothers me. Shape is off."

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=943451

Is this the case (pun intended)?

[Dom9]

Originally Posted by zkramez

I tried to upload the photos but it’s impossible. I have no clue how to change the size. It says the max is 1250 x 1250. I am not tech savvy enough to figure that out.

I have a genuine crown fitted to a 702 tube according to a local watch maker.

The tube will be a 7020 though what crown did he say it was? 700? 702? 703? 704? They don't all fit the same tube because of the way the seals work.

The original post suggests a 702 crown but a 702 crown will fit a 7020 tube, obviously, and I can't conceptualise why anyone would produce a stem with the wrong diameter for a 15XX movement and any 7mm (or other) Rolex crown.

Is this the fire damaged watch with aftermarket case? You sure your watchmaker knows a genuine part from aftermarket or the subtle differences between crowns?

Can always use something like https://postimages.org/ to upload photos and link them.

[TimeToGo]

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He states most of the movement was replaced as well, aftermarket?!

Also, looks like you've been hanging around a "replica" forum quite a bit..

[77T]

This thread is an extension of the OP's earlier one cited by another member above.

Except now it is about a 7020 tube and a 702 crown.

I'd suggest that anyone casting aspersions check their attitude. We have a great member named Jocke who regularly makes unique assemblages and garners kudos for that work.

In this case the OP asserts he is only trying to make his grandfathers watch worthy.

It’s a family heirloom in his mind. So it's a long term project to cobble a 5513 together in memory of a beloved grandfather that'll be different from any other 5513 on Earth.

All I ask from the OP in return for the TRF community's advice and support is this:
PM the pictures to any of us so we can post them up for the benefit of documentation here. (Because he said uploading was difficult for him)


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[Wahlberg]

I think I remember that topic. Please post pics.

How did they even find an aftermarket case?

[77T]

If I recall correctly, a member gave him a lead to a 5513 midcase listed on eBay.


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[zkramez]

Finally figured out how to get the pictures resized.

Here is the crown with an old stem that ended up being too short.

IMG_4932.JPG

Thank you all for your concerns on my grandfathers watch. A lot of time and research lead me to leave it as is for the most part but I still need a stem. I happily wear the watch as it is and get to remember a great man every time I wear it.

Through my research and parts buying, I had a lot of extra parts that I did not end up using and it sucked me into the Frankenstein / homage world and I built a beautiful 5517 homage. If you don't like that that's fine. I can understand why it would upset people. No need for accusations or name calling. That is unprofessional.



This post is about a the proper thread size for a stem for a genuine 702 crown.

If you don't want to help then that's fine. Don't help. If you do want to help I really appreciate it and thank you!

[77T]

Were you able to buy one of the genuine 5513 midcases on eBay?

That old aftermarket midcase could matter in your challenge with fitment of a genuine tube.


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[Dom9]

Guessing the stem was made for / cut for an OP or something with a smaller case size. Submariner will need longer. Apologies if it was the length you were after. From memory, it's something like 12.5mm.

Interested to see the heirloom now you've got the pics sorted. The case above looks in very good condition!

[zkramez]

Originally Posted by 77T

Were you able to buy one of the genuine 5513 midcases on eBay?

That old aftermarket midcase could matter in your challenge with fitment of a genuine tube.


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Unfortunately not. It was very pricy. I just left the aftermarket one for now. Starting to see why everyone gave up on it.

[zkramez]

Originally Posted by Dom9

Guessing the stem was made for / cut for an OP or something with a smaller case size. Submariner will need longer. Apologies if it was the length you were after. From memory, it's something like 12.5mm.

Interested to see the heirloom now you've got the pics sorted. The case above looks in very good condition!

Case above is still the aftermarket case. It’s a mess. The crown does for fine. It’s just the stem itself that I’m having a hard time finding.

I think the short one was from an air king. I assumed it would fit. I was wrong haha.

We will see if the new one I ordered is good.

[Dom9]

Deleted by me... not the time and place, I guess.

[77T]

Originally Posted by Dom9

Deleted by me... not the time and place, I guess.

I understand - I was able to read your whole post before the deletion. I didn't take any offense about your quote of my earlier post.

I withdraw my earlier comment about aspersions since there is some smoke and mirrors elsewhere.


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[Dom9]

Originally Posted by 77T

I understand - I was able to read your whole post before the deletion. I didn't take any offense about your quote of my earlier post.

I withdraw my earlier comment about aspersions since there is some smoke and mirrors.


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Thanks - appreciated. I just don't like 'it', though like the confrontation less