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Old 11 July 2024, 11:52 PM   #1
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Market Dynamic: WG Daytona value loss vs SS?

I am new to horology and just purchased a new 126610LV and love it! I would like a Daytona next and am surprised that the SS (126500LN) commands such a premium while the WG (126509) sell at or below MSRP/RRP.

Why does this dynamic exist?
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Old 11 July 2024, 11:53 PM   #2
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Because most ppl cant justify the premium precious metal rolexes come with at MSRP.
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Old 11 July 2024, 11:54 PM   #3
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Because there is more demand for the ss
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Old 12 July 2024, 12:23 AM   #4
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another meaningless value retention post, could we focus on horology discussion please?
i buy watches because i like them, have zero interest if the watch value will rise of fall after i purchased them.
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Old 12 July 2024, 12:39 AM   #5
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You want a Daytona but dont understand the market?????
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Old 12 July 2024, 12:43 AM   #6
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another meaningless value retention post, could we focus on horology discussion please?
i buy watches because i like them, have zero interest if the watch value will rise of fall after i purchased them.
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Old 12 July 2024, 12:58 AM   #7
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Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your LV.

SS professional references like the Daytona are in high demand. Partly because of their relative value compared to the same watch in precious metal.
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Old 12 July 2024, 02:14 AM   #8
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Congratulations on your LV. A superb watch.

The explanation for the price difference is the obvious one, supply and demand. There's nothing more to it.
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Old 12 July 2024, 02:30 AM   #9
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Going to preface, by saying this is just an opinion.

1. White gold doesn't have the flash for the price, like yellow gold or rose gold does.
2. Typically buying a precious medal watch people want to see the money they spent visually.
3. White gold is in a similar color wheel as stainless steel.

That being said, white gold Daytonas are great!
As well as the yellow and rose gold models.

Everyone has their own preferences on what precious metal they like.
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Old 12 July 2024, 03:37 AM   #10
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I feel like if you are buying through a 3rd party or not authorised dealer, then precious metal is definitely the way to go when buying either a stainless or gold Daytona.
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Old 12 July 2024, 03:40 AM   #11
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Basic Economics 101…….Demand and Supply.
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Old 12 July 2024, 03:45 AM   #12
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This SS watch desirability extends to many brands PP for example. Forget that PM makes a watch cost more in manufacturing as cost of the material means very little to its end price point. Generally, PM will also be the one discounted first and take the highest depreciation after sale. You buy a PM model for you as the most important reason.

The real reality of a SS Daytona for most people is they will never get one through their AD even with $ix figure spending on other jewelry. It’s like lottery odds, yet people win every day but you don’t plan your retirement around winning.
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Old 12 July 2024, 04:26 AM   #13
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congratulations on your lv. A superb watch.

The explanation for the price difference is the obvious one, supply and demand. There's nothing more to it.
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Old 12 July 2024, 04:31 AM   #14
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another meaningless value retention post, could we focus on horology discussion please?
i buy watches because i like them, have zero interest if the watch value will rise of fall after i purchased them.
It’s a big forum. What’s important to you may not be to another member, and visa versa. If you don’t want to read value retention posts, you can always just move on to the next post.
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Old 12 July 2024, 04:47 AM   #15
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I am new to horology and just purchased a new 126610LV and love it! I would like a Daytona next and am surprised that the SS (126500LN) commands such a premium while the WG (126509) sell at or below MSRP/RRP.

Why does this dynamic exist?
Stainless Steel watches are the ones that are collected and traded throughout the world, therefore there is a high demand for them.

High demand determines marketability in the secondary market, not what the item is made from or what is stamped on a dial.

As long as there are more people seeking a Stainless Daytona than there are available, secondary prices will be high.
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Old 12 July 2024, 05:13 AM   #16
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another meaningless value retention post, could we focus on horology discussion please?
i buy watches because i like them, have zero interest if the watch value will rise of fall after i purchased them.
What is the horological value of PM?
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Old 12 July 2024, 05:56 AM   #17
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It’s a big forum. What’s important to you may not be to another member, and visa versa. If you don’t want to read value retention posts, you can always just move on to the next post.
Agree completely here!

Why even make the post?
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Old 12 July 2024, 06:12 AM   #18
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I've not worn a white gold Rolex, but I've read many times on here owners of white gold pieces say they won't go back to stainless steal because of the weight difference

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Old 12 July 2024, 07:01 AM   #19
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I feel like if you are buying through a 3rd party or not authorised dealer, then precious metal is definitely the way to go when buying either a stainless or gold Daytona.
if it's a daytona, then no, you're still better off going through your authorized dealer. even the gold and platinum daytonas are going to cost you more via a gray dealer vs the AD.

However, if it's a submariner, then yes, grey dealer all day long.
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Old 12 July 2024, 07:33 AM   #20
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I've not worn a white gold Rolex, but I've read many times on here owners of white gold pieces say they won't go back to stainless steal because of the weight difference Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
There is room for both in my collection.
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Old 12 July 2024, 01:57 PM   #21
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The SA Daytona question is so so old news
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Old 12 July 2024, 09:06 PM   #22
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another meaningless value retention post, could we focus on horology discussion please?
i buy watches because i like them, have zero interest if the watch value will rise of fall after i purchased them.

Because this is so incredibly meaningful…




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Old 12 July 2024, 11:37 PM   #23
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Fewer folks can afford the WG model, thus overall lower demand per unit at retail than the SS. Those who can afford PM tend to want the more psychological bang for the buck they get with yellow or rose gold.
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Old 12 July 2024, 11:48 PM   #24
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I've not worn a white gold Rolex, but I've read many times on here owners of white gold pieces say they won't go back to stainless steal because of the weight difference

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Agree. Earlier this year I purchased my first PM Daytona from my AD (RG on OF). I no longer have that burning desire for a SS Daytona. In fact, I am leaning more and more towards PM for any future watch purchases. Hard to describe, but the PM watch just feels nicer on the wrist.
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Old 13 July 2024, 12:25 AM   #25
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I'm in a similar spot where I'm looking at both SS and PM models. I'm heavily leaning towards buying PM on the grey market. The savings is too substantial to warrant buying "new" (only potential benefit being the SA "spend" angle) but yes, as you and other have stated, it's quite striking that PM resale prices drop almost across all models (a few exceptions) and the popular SS models appreciate (at least in today's market... but those gaps are narrowing)
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Old 13 July 2024, 01:48 AM   #26
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PM has got to be the way to go.

@ OP - let us know what you decide.
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