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Watchcraze007 28 September 2012 03:00 AM

Vote: hot watch 10 yrs from now, 422 or 372?
 
The collectable/grail 10 years from now, 422 or 372?

p_mcgee 28 September 2012 03:24 AM

Neither, both will be surpassed by the newest hot thing. Probably 55+ mm at that point.

Watchcraze007 28 September 2012 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by p_mcgee (Post 3614875)
Neither, both will be surpassed by the newest hot thing. Probably 55+ mm at that point.

My answer: http://www.chrono24.com/en/panerai/v...-id1774109.htm

aboen 28 September 2012 04:24 AM

10 years from now the vintage appeal on the 372 is going to be ridiculously COOL.

Value/collectability…I don’t care.

Watchcraze007 28 September 2012 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by aboen (Post 3614953)
10 years from now the vintage appeal on the 372 is going to be ridiculously COOL.

Value/collectability…I don’t care.

COOL as in it being "a pretty cool watch in demand" or cool as in lukewarm response? :thinking:

p_mcgee 28 September 2012 06:24 AM

372 looks to be a regular production reference so doubtful it will be highly collectible.

B. Doggy 28 September 2012 06:32 AM

Neither will be collectible or grails since they're in normal production. There are some other modern PAM's I would think will be though.

nauticajoe 28 September 2012 06:54 AM

I'll play.....the 372!


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esm 28 September 2012 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchcraze007 (Post 3614903)

Won't happen again. The likelihood of finding another Rolex movement in any modern production Panerai is pretty much zilch.

Cru Jones 28 September 2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by B. Doggy (Post 3615150)
Neither will be collectible or grails since they're in normal production. There are some other modern PAM's I would think will be though.

:agree: :thumbsup:

TAKUYA 28 September 2012 07:35 AM

10 years from now............. honestly i don't know. it's all depend on what you think and like. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

rulessapt 28 September 2012 08:19 AM

Probably neither.

I'd look at the watches which have anything other than the ETA movements or their derivatives. Always desirable and in limited quantities.

Remember, the only reason Panerai developed inhouse movements was having ETA demand their supply of movements be recognised.
ETA is Swatch Group, Panerai is Richemont.

But I digress.

Cheers
Richard

Survivor 28 September 2012 08:47 AM

They are both beautifully done modern interpretations of classic Panerai styles. With its growing popularity over the last decade or so, Panerai seems to use these two dial layouts a lot as they harken back to vintage and collectible models.

I love them both but I doubt either will be a grail watch as you will have hundreds of different versions of these two watches, in all sizes, case styles, dial colors and models, over the next 10 years.

Watches24seven 28 September 2012 09:54 AM

Pam 372
 
Collectors have been begging Panerai to create the 47 mm base with plexiglass.

Too bad they made 6000... so far. If they had made it a special edition, it would have been one for the ages.

Call me crazy, I still like the Fiddy.

Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

Bruce

bottom of the ninth 28 September 2012 10:01 AM

Neither will be a "Grail" but the 372 will still be a very cool looking!
Base is Ace! IMHO

rulessapt 28 September 2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Watches24seven (Post 3615566)
Collectors have been begging Panerai to create the 47 mm base with plexiglass.

Too bad they made 6000... so far. If they had made it a special edition, it would have been one for the ages.

Call me crazy, I still like the Fiddy.

Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

Bruce

Good call Bruce, the "fiddy" seems to fit the bill of exclusive, desirable and sought after.
The 190 fits into this groove too.

As you mentioned, too many of a good thing spoils the future potential.
Personally, I like the "now" of it all and who knows what I'll still like in 10 years time.

Cheers
Richard

dukerules 28 September 2012 10:19 AM

For me, the 372 is perfection. I don't care if they make 6 or 6 million of them, if a watch is good, it's good. Who knows what will be popular or desirable in 10 years. I really don't care. I do know that I love the hell out of my 372.

Travelller 28 September 2012 11:16 AM

I love them both, but if I were out to "collect", I'd go for this year's 449 SE SLC followed by the 448 SE Cali...

DOUGHN 28 September 2012 11:37 AM

372 wins over 422
 
between the 2 models, 372 base .... wins over 422

nick c 28 September 2012 12:07 PM

372 :thumbsup:

mfer 28 September 2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watches24seven (Post 3615566)
Collectors have been begging Panerai to create the 47 mm base with plexiglass.

Too bad they made 6000... so far. If they had made it a special edition, it would have been one for the ages.

Call me crazy, I still like the Fiddy.

Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

Bruce

Yup. Everyone wanted a base 47mm Luminor, but no one expected it to be a regular production. A great watch and nice for people who want to wear a great watch without worry about harming it. Bad if you expected it to be a 127/217.

I do love the look of the 217, just wish I had he wrist to pull it off.

Glenn422 28 September 2012 01:10 PM

I bought my 422 not because I expect its value to go up, I bought it just because i think it looks so damn good! Buy what screams out to you, don't buy speculating values but ending up with a watch you don't really like..

htc8p 28 September 2012 01:36 PM

I think Officine Panerai is very hit miss with their watches recently. in some models, they're looking too busy and losing their identity.

my 112G is the watch that i cant wait to become vintage.

the 372, 127 look good but very big.

Reese's TimePieces 28 September 2012 03:11 PM

372 will still be a classic in the future. Just because it is a regular production piece, will not devalue it in the future.

Eventually, like all other regular production PAMs it will be discontinued and probably gain eve more popularity.

Yk101 30 September 2012 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rulessapt (Post 3615412)
Probably neither.

I'd look at the watches which have anything other than the ETA movements or their derivatives. Always desirable and in limited quantities.

Remember, the only reason Panerai developed inhouse movements was having ETA demand their supply of movements be recognised.
ETA is Swatch Group, Panerai is Richemont.

But I digress.

Cheers
Richard

Not exactly so! Richemont bought JLC with the ability to develop and build in-house movements in mind. All the new PAM movements are actually designed and built by JLC, and since they are technically the same company, they call them "manufacture".

Watchcraze007 30 September 2012 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by glenn.onggara (Post 3615968)
I bought my 422 not because I expect its value to go up, I bought it just because i think it looks so damn good! Buy what screams out to you, don't buy speculating values but ending up with a watch you don't really like..

The value I was looking for when I bought the 372 is historical, not financial. U r absolutely right. But some watches you could very well buy to speculate on. But ofcourse you must know your thing!

Ditch 30 September 2012 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchcraze007 (Post 3614857)
The collectable/grail 10 years from now, 422 or 372?

My opinion; it depends less on the watch, & more on what someone does wearing it. If you can wear one of them to Mars or somesuch, then it'll be collectible.

Watchcraze007 30 September 2012 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Yk101 (Post 3619644)
Not exactly so! Richemont bought JLC with the ability to develop and build in-house movements in mind. All the new PAM movements are actually designed and built by JLC, and since they are technically the same company, they call them "manufacture".

So the new P3000, 3001, 9000, etc are designed and built inside JLC and delivered ready by them to OP??

1William 30 September 2012 05:03 AM

422

HDHNTER 30 September 2012 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchcraze007 (Post 3619795)
So the new P3000, 3001, 9000, etc are designed and built inside JLC and delivered ready by them to OP??

OP movements are manufactured within OP walls by OP personnel based on everything I have read & seen (production tour vids).


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