New Pepsi value.

[Speedbird-1]

Will the arrival of the rumoured, new Coke on an Oyster, at Basel 2020, affect
values, I wonder?

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Lt Virgil Hilts

Will the arrival of the rumoured, new Coke on an Oyster, at Basel 2020, affect
values, I wonder?

are you asking if speculation affects value?

Pretty sure the BLNR and Hulk discontinuation talk juiced the prices over the past 6 months or so. How its going to move prices for this, i have no idea.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Not as much as my Pepsi.

Aaa..hahaha! How about the possibility that the general watch buying public won't even like it and would sooner have the LN? Only wis accept the colour because of the Pan Am thing and the odd looking Jubillee. It could potentially be the most unloved GMT.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Onikage

Aaa..hahaha! How about the possibility that the general watch buying public won't even like it and would sooner have the LN? Only wis accept the colour because of the Pan Am thing and the odd looking Jubillee. It could potentially be the most unloved GMT.

i hate to say it, but its really blingy. The general watch buying public is going to love that. Sad but true. I love it, but its still a tad loud

The idea of a Rolex you can spot from 50 yards away is a huge positive for many, many people who are buying a Rolex.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i hate to say it, but its really blingy. The general watch buying public is going to love that. Sad but true. I love it, but its still a tad loud

The idea of a Rolex you can spot from 50 yards away is a huge positive for many, many people who are buying a Rolex.

I can't argue. Though I can see it maybe settling quite a lot before a mad Hulk-like resurgence.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i hate to say it, but its really blingy. The general watch buying public is going to love that. Sad but true. I love it, but its still a tad loud

The idea of a Rolex you can spot from 50 yards away is a huge positive for many, many people who are buying a Rolex.

As loud, or as blingy as a Yachtmaster, Skydweller, or even, dare
I suggest it, as blingy as a Daytona.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Lt Virgil Hilts

As loud, or as blingy as a Yachtmaster, Skydweller, or even, dare
I suggest it, as blingy as a Daytona.

IMO the jubilee isnt understated, but then again maybe its just because im not as use to it.

Its louder than a PCL oyster bracelet for sure and yeah, maybe more so than a YM. The YM is bigger but that jubilee bracelet just sparkles in sunlight.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i hate to say it, but its really blingy. The general watch buying public is going to love that. Sad but true. I love it, but its still a tad loud

The idea of a Rolex you can spot from 50 yards away is a huge positive for many, many people who are buying a Rolex.

I have never sold or traded a watch so this thread is moot but I expect someone in my family will do this in the near future.

I only find my GMT's 'blingy' when I wear then both at the same time.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by directioneng

I have never sold or traded a watch so this thread is moot but I expect someone in my family will do this in the near future.

I only find my GMT's 'blingy' when I wear then both at the same time.

im referring more to the bracelet. Its a lot like a RO bracelet to me as far as how the light hits it. Im admittedly a jubilee newbie though, but it is one aspect that surprised me. Its not necessary a negative either.

[A.I.]

Leaving the bezel to one side IMO the new jubilee makes this watch stand out a mile from the sports watch herd. Joe public loves a bit of bling. I consider myself Joe public (with just a little extra knowledge) and the pre Basel jubilee teaser sucked me right in.

If supply is kept tight, and I feel it will be, SS Pepsi should command a strong premium for a good few years.

Personally I reckon resale will settle down after a year to around 12k ($15k) which is about a 50/60% lift in the U.K.

That will do nicely.

[1William]

If the supply is steady then it will drop to MSRP plus 25% if not it will stay crazy.

[Eric-London]

Originally Posted by unknown

Absolutely no f*cking way

Agree completely!

[ap1]

A bottle of 2liter Pepsi will be $2.29 in 2 years

[larrysimon]

My 2 Cents ..............

Once the initial BS wanes and more become available to the Grey Market;

The Pepsi will price on the Grey Market between £ 9 K to £10 K GBP for the 1st year of production............ and then dip down gradually to £ 1 K premium over RRP.

I honestly do not think its a major game changer the way the BLNR was at its release.

I'm on the waiting list (No4 with my AD) for the Pepsi and if i got the call this week I'm not sure i would pull the trigger now.

Toddle Pip !

[Andad]

Originally Posted by larrysimon

My 2 Cents ..............

Once the initial BS wanes and more become available to the Grey Market;

The Pepsi will price on the Grey Market between £ 9 K to £10 K GBP for the 1st year of production............ and then dip down gradually to £ 1 K premium over RRP.

I honestly do not think its a major game changer the way the BLNR was at its release.

I'm on the waiting list (No4 with my AD) for the Pepsi and if i got the call this week I'm not sure i would pull the trigger now.

Toddle Pip !

And toddle pip to you too.

[superdog]

This will be the hardest to get watch for the next three years.

Prices are going nowhere.

[Mystro]

It’s too new, riding a SS shortage and new watch buzz. Give it 7+ years and then we will talk about if it’s popularity compares to the Hulk. I don’t think it will be. A basic black dial, doesn’t have a easylink clasp and has bracelet figment issues at the lugs. Will a standard GMT on a jubilee bracelet be as popular as a Rolex Sub???? History says no way. The real question will be between the BLNR. Does more people like the oyster bracelet or jubilee bracelet on a SS professional model. There is your answer.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by directioneng

And toddle pip to you too.

You on the juice too!?

It's, tooddle-pip mate, toodle-pip!
..........Say it!

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Mystro

It’s too new, riding a SS shortage and new watch buzz. Give it 7+ years and then we will talk about if it’s popularity compares to the Hulk. I don’t think it will be. A basic black dial, doesn’t have a easylink clasp and has bracelet figment issues at the lugs.

the hulk really didn't start out all that hot. Its grown with time, so this is the opposite if anything as this started out of the gate to huge demand. The Hulk has only gotten really hard to find within the last year. Last summer i tried one on in Houston in an AD and it was sitting on display.

The Hulk is riding the watch buzz the same as all of them so if the SS shortage buzz goes down its affecting the Hulk, BLNR etc as much or more than the newer models.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

the hulk really didn't start out all that hot. Its grown with time, so this is the opposite if anything as this started out of the gate to huge demand. The Hulk has only gotten really hard to find within the last year. Last summer i tried one on in Houston in an AD and it was sitting on display. The Hulk is riding the watch buzz the same as all of them

This is why the Hulk’s popularity is more organic. It was hot after it’s Basel release but died back to reality like all other models. The new Basel release buzz was gone then grew its popularity organically years after release. It was a watch released ahead of its time. That’s a rare phenomenon that took a lot of people by surprise. The Hulks popularity hit a bit before the SS watch shortage. February last year the Hulk was on fire and only getting hotter. I was watching it a year before this with it’s price and availability. By the end of summer, it was a raging inferno. The shortage just fueled it more. Now the price has climbed almost $4k from when I purchased mine NIB from the same trusted seller just over a year ago. I watched the same thing happen with the SS Daytona in the early 1990’s. At first no one understood it’s rise in popularity over the TT/PM Daytona.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Mystro

This is why the Hulk’s popularity now started more organically. It was hot after it’s Basel release but died back to reality like all other models. The new Basel release buzz was gone then grew its popularity organically. It was a watch released ahead of its time. That’s a rare phenomenon that took a lot of people by surprise. The Hulks popularity hit a bit before the SS watch shortage. February last year the Hulk was on fire and only getting hotter. I was watching it a year before this with it’s price and availability. By the end of summer it was a raging Inferno. The shortage just fueled it more. Now the price has climbed almost $4k from when I purchased mine from the NIB from the same trusted seller just over a year ago.

i tend to think the watch market took off and took the hulk with it. In any case its a great watch and it doesnt matter. I wish i hadn't passed on it to be honest, i just had a hard time getting use to the green since it was so different for me. It retrospect i would have bought it.

[watchwatcher]

Hard to say. Still early in the game to call what the supply is going to look like, which will have the greatest influence on price. So...it's anybody's guess.

[eco8gator]

I think the prices will drop to no more than 13k must faster than we all think.

From there it wouldn't surprise me to see it at 11k.

If Rolex releases a Coke (with SEL and new movement) at the next Basel World and discontinues the Batman I think that might significantly impact the Pepsi prices. The Coke would have been amazing because I bet Rolex would get the bezel colors perfect.

I hope they do this to stifle the gross mark ups on the watches. I bet a lot of these "20k" purchases are inside jobs to artificially drive up the grey market prices. Besides at 20k Id rather have a Royal Oak or Aquanaut:)

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i tend to think the watch market took off and took the hulk with it. In any case its a great watch and it doesnt matter. I wish i hadn't passed on it to be honest, i just had a hard time getting use to the green since it was so different for me. It retrospect i would have bought it.

I missed several huge Rolex buying opportunities. Like a NIB SS Daytona at a signifigant dealer discount back in the day. I think we are now in new Rolex territory with price points.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Hard to say. Still early in the game to call what the supply is going to look like, which will have the greatest influence on price. So...it's anybody's guess.

Thanks.

[A.I.]

Originally Posted by eco8gator

I think the prices will drop to no more than 13k must faster than we all think.

From there it wouldn't surprise me to see it at 11k.

If Rolex releases a Coke (with SEL and new movement) at the next Basel World and discontinues the Batman I think that might significantly impact the Pepsi prices. The Coke would have been amazing because I bet Rolex would get the bezel colors perfect.

I hope they do this to stifle the gross mark ups on the watches. I bet a lot of these "20k" purchases are inside jobs to artificially drive up the grey market prices. Besides at 20k Id rather have a Royal Oak or Aquanaut:)

So you have seen the BLRO in the flesh? To my eye the colours are spot on.

[fishingbear]

MSRP.


...for me anyway.

[AK797]

Buy one get one free... or maybe I just have Sunday night Pizza on the brain...

[Annan]

I have not been right about anything for a very long time but that does not stop me from chiming in anyway.

Prices from gray dealers will be:
….around $12,000 in 1 year
….very near the current MSRP in 2 years
….$8,500 in 3 years

[juani]

Originally Posted by Mystro

It’s too new, riding a SS shortage and new watch buzz. Give it 7+ years and then we will talk about if it’s popularity compares to the Hulk. I don’t think it will be. A basic black dial, doesn’t have a easylink clasp and has bracelet figment issues at the lugs. Will a standard GMT on a jubilee bracelet be as popular as a Rolex Sub???? History says no way. The real question will be between the BLNR. Does more people like the oyster bracelet or jubilee bracelet on a SS professional model. There is your answer.

It does have the Easy link Clasp?