I have some concerns with this listing

[krcrowe]

Hello all,

May I request the expertise of the board on this ebay listing.

This appears to be a lovely Tudor that I would like to bid on but
I have some concerns, especially with line in the listing where items
under $1K can not be returned. Does anyone have any history with
this seller (other than the one post I was able to search out here)
or can offer any views as to the authenticity of this item.
Here is the listing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300295878033

Thank you.

Roger

[tudorman8276]

...G E N U I N E...and NICE example of the Quartz version.

...if the band would be too short, the links can be ordered thru an AD or watchmaker with a Rolex parts acct (there are still a few of them around).

...I would NOT concern yourself with the $1000 thingy. You are covered by PayPal anyway.

Stan.

[gmt 16750]

I would avoid it - it should not say 'Quartz' and 'self-winding' on the same dial!
- Neil.

[TimeToGo]

Originally Posted by gmt 16750

I would avoid it - it should not say 'Quartz' and 'self-winding' on the same dial!
- Neil.

Interesting!

[tudorman8276]

Originally Posted by gmt 16750

I would avoid it - it should not say 'Quartz' and 'self-winding' on the same dial!
- Neil.

...GREAT EYES...thank you!

...BETTER STAY FROM THIS ONE!!!!!

...I had NOT enlarged the pic's!!

Stan.

[onkyo]

Originally Posted by gmt 16750

I would avoid it - it should not say 'Quartz' and 'self-winding' on the same dial!
- Neil.

I would call that a 'hybrid'.

The wave of the future.

[coddger]

Originally Posted by onkyo

I would call that a 'hybrid'.

The wave of the future.

[krcrowe]

This is what makes this forum so interesting and so valuable; thank you to the members.

[jeff hess]

neil,
i see SO much confusion among newbies about the term "self winding". We all know that this term means automatic. Some think it means that you wind it yourself. :(

Some people call only manual wind watches "mechanical" when gosh, even automatics are indeed "mechanical".

I think the guy is just kind of ignornant not criminal.

Watch looks fine.
jeff

[krcrowe]

I'm confused friends; is the consensus that this is an outright fake, a frankenwatch/hybrid or a genuine article. It's a lovely piece and I would love to bid on it but I would like to do so ideally knowing what its status is. Can anyone definitively state the case here?
Thank you.

[gmt 16750]

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Watch looks fine.
jeff

jeff, I disagree totally and tbh am slightly perplexed as to why a man of your knowledge would state that this watch 'looks fine' ???

Tudor quartz watches (whilst I agree of course are still mechanical for the most part) are not automatic and therefore self-winding and no Tudor quartz watch has ever had both marked on the dial.......so at best, it is a poor re-dial - this fact alone makes the watch 'not 'look fine imo (if the dial has been tampered with, who knows what else has?).
I would never recommend the OP buy this Tudor when there are thousands of good, no issue, correct ones for sale out there.

[gmt 16750]

edit - of course I meant to type: "and therefore not self-winding" instead of "and therefore self-winding".

Thanks - Neil.

[jeff hess]

Tudor quartz watches (whilst I agree of course are still mechanical for the most part) are not automatic and therefore self-winding and no Tudor quartz watch has ever had both marked on the dial...
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hah! I did not notice that! A redone dial gone bad??

[Terry Newton]

Ah; The old Quartz Battery and Self Winding Hybrid Version that Rolex has put out recently to save energy.

How rare and unique.

Terry Newton

[Flaxmoore]

So Tudor did it before the Citizen Ecodrive... interesting. Not. ;-)