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clew84 · 25 February 2009, 02:52 PM

Okay, so I have a Kobold Seal (titanium version) that I put out for sale on TZ and WUS. It's been lingering for a few weeks and I have lowered the price and bumped it up the FS line. At first, I said I would trade the watch + cash for a Sea Dweller but I sold another watch and went ahead and bought the SD anyway. For the heck of it, I changed the watches I would trade for to the GMT IIc, IWC, Panerai, etc.

So, this guy says he really wants a Seal and has a basically brand new GMT IIc (M series, box and papers, 98%, etc.). I had my watch listed for $2200 and he wants $2900 in cash to do the deal. So...

The economy has gotten me down a little lately and worried about the future and I was pretty set on keeping the Seal. However, for basically $5100 (2200+2900), I can get a like-new GMT IIc. But I didn't really want to part with the cash right now.

The seller comes back and says, hey, if it makes you feel more comfortable, I can take 3-4 payments over the next several months. This way he doesn't have to list his watch for sale and wait and he gets the watch he wants right now as opposed to waiting for another Seal Ti to come up again.

It's almost like fate. Or a scam. Leaning towards fate. He sent pics, seems like a nice guy, references available... what to do, what to do... darn him for trying to make me do the deal!

DoxaDavid · 25 February 2009, 02:58 PM

And your question is what? " Stupid, considerate seller"? Don't understand the meaning of your post..

clew84 · 25 February 2009, 03:09 PM

Sarcasm. I meant to imply he is making it hard not to do the trade when I had kind of backed off from wanting to spend more money on a watch. I was kind of hoping for a more even trade after I posted but it had been a few days since I had changed the listing to the GMT IIc.

So, just kind of kidding about being stupid - just a little mad at him for making it much easier for me to work the trade and now I am considering it seriously.

Edit - changed the title.

Omega_Precision · 25 February 2009, 03:13 PM

Do you mean that he's stupid because he is letting you put payments on the watch?

If so, I don't think he's stupid, he just doesn't want to wait for another Seal to come up

Is he considerate for doing this?

Yes, if in fact, he checks out to be a legitimate owner of the watch and a deal was going to happen.

Also, you must exercise caution here!

bodybump · 25 February 2009, 03:43 PM

i say if you dont feel comfy with the transaction just walk away...

buz-lh · 25 February 2009, 09:31 PM

I would be concerned if this is an individual. If he's offering to take payments on the balance without knowing who he's dealing with I would think there is a problem. Have you done business with him before? Is he pulling a credit check? If the answer is no I think he's a little too anxious and would definitely proceed with caution. This scenario just raises a red flag with me.

kcmo · 26 February 2009, 01:57 AM

I agree that you should be cautious. Hate to sound negative but better to be safe then sorry. Trust me!

postiff · 26 February 2009, 02:05 AM

Just remember often time the best scammers make you feel safe and of course they are going to sound trust worthy they are not going to come right out and say hey I am going to scam you so please bring your stuff to this location…

Be cautious

25 February 2009, 02:52 PM	#1
clew84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati Watch: me soar Posts: 930	Seller making it too easy on me... Okay, so I have a Kobold Seal (titanium version) that I put out for sale on TZ and WUS. It's been lingering for a few weeks and I have lowered the price and bumped it up the FS line. At first, I said I would trade the watch + cash for a Sea Dweller but I sold another watch and went ahead and bought the SD anyway. For the heck of it, I changed the watches I would trade for to the GMT IIc, IWC, Panerai, etc. So, this guy says he really wants a Seal and has a basically brand new GMT IIc (M series, box and papers, 98%, etc.). I had my watch listed for $2200 and he wants $2900 in cash to do the deal. So... The economy has gotten me down a little lately and worried about the future and I was pretty set on keeping the Seal. However, for basically $5100 (2200+2900), I can get a like-new GMT IIc. But I didn't really want to part with the cash right now. The seller comes back and says, hey, if it makes you feel more comfortable, I can take 3-4 payments over the next several months. This way he doesn't have to list his watch for sale and wait and he gets the watch he wants right now as opposed to waiting for another Seal Ti to come up again. It's almost like fate. Or a scam. Leaning towards fate. He sent pics, seems like a nice guy, references available... what to do, what to do... darn him for trying to make me do the deal! __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Omega SMP IWC 3227-01 Autodromo Prototipo

25 February 2009, 02:58 PM	#2
DoxaDavid "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: David Location: Minneapolis, Mn Posts: 3,271	And your question is what? " Stupid, considerate seller"? Don't understand the meaning of your post.. __________________ DOXA-AFICIONADO "It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues. " Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865

25 February 2009, 03:09 PM	#3
clew84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati Watch: me soar Posts: 930	Sarcasm. I meant to imply he is making it hard not to do the trade when I had kind of backed off from wanting to spend more money on a watch. I was kind of hoping for a more even trade after I posted but it had been a few days since I had changed the listing to the GMT IIc. So, just kind of kidding about being stupid - just a little mad at him for making it much easier for me to work the trade and now I am considering it seriously. Edit - changed the title. __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 16600 Omega SMP IWC 3227-01 Autodromo Prototipo

25 February 2009, 03:43 PM	#5
bodybump ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 2024 SubLV41 Sponsor & Boutique Seller Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Oscar Location: Florida Watch: Me!!! Posts: 23,233	i say if you dont feel comfy with the transaction just walk away... __________________

25 February 2009, 09:31 PM	#6
buz-lh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Buz Location: Atlanta Watch: Rolex Tudor Pam Posts: 5,108	I would be concerned if this is an individual. If he's offering to take payments on the balance without knowing who he's dealing with I would think there is a problem. Have you done business with him before? Is he pulling a credit check? If the answer is no I think he's a little too anxious and would definitely proceed with caution. This scenario just raises a red flag with me. __________________ Buz The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live. Peter Diamandis

25 February 2009, 03:13 PM	#4
Omega_Precision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Henry Location: CA, US Watch: ing basketball Posts: 2,977	Do you mean that he's stupid because he is letting you put payments on the watch? If so, I don't think he's stupid, he just doesn't want to wait for another Seal to come up Is he considerate for doing this? Yes, if in fact, he checks out to be a legitimate owner of the watch and a deal was going to happen. Also, you must exercise caution here!

26 February 2009, 01:57 AM	#7
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I agree that you should be cautious. Hate to sound negative but better to be safe then sorry. Trust me!

26 February 2009, 02:05 AM	#8
postiff Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Danny Location: Ca Watch: 116710LN Posts: 936	Just remember often time the best scammers make you feel safe and of course they are going to sound trust worthy they are not going to come right out and say hey I am going to scam you so please bring your stuff to this location… Be cautious

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