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Old 21 November 2019, 12:00 AM   #31
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I had the same problem. Try to compress the watch roll with your palms. I was able to reduce the diameter by squeezing it hard. It greatly reduced the tightness of the watch on the roll
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Old 21 November 2019, 12:01 AM   #32
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And just how exactly ?
Soft gold, of course!
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Old 21 November 2019, 12:10 AM   #33
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THIS is bracelet "stretch", on my Rolex ref 1630:
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Old 21 November 2019, 01:28 AM   #34
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And just how exactly ?
Ha ha lol, it’s not that hard

18k Gold is a lot softer than 904l oyster Steel

The Metals Scale of Hardness

Lead – 1.5
Tin – 1.5
Zinc – 2.5
Gold – 2.5 – 3
Silver – 2.5 – 3
Aluminum – 2.5 – 3
Copper – 3
Brass – 3
Bronze – 3
Nickel – 4
Platinum – 4 – 4.5
Steel – 4 – 4.5
Iron – 4.5
Palladium – 4.75
Rhodium – 6
Titanium – 6
Hardened Steel – 7 – 8
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Even if it’s a new day date with ceramic sleeves Gold is Gold and it’s like wearing frozen chocolate on your wrist
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Old 21 November 2019, 01:35 AM   #35
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Ha ha lol, it’s not that hard

18k Gold is a lot softer than 904l oyster Steel

The Metals Scale of Hardness

Lead – 1.5
Tin – 1.5
Zinc – 2.5
Gold – 2.5 – 3
Silver – 2.5 – 3
Aluminum – 2.5 – 3
Copper – 3
Brass – 3
Bronze – 3
Nickel – 4
Platinum – 4 – 4.5
Steel – 4 – 4.5
Iron – 4.5
Palladium – 4.75
Rhodium – 6
Titanium – 6
Hardened Steel – 7 – 8
Tungsten – 7.5
Tungsten Carbide – 8.5 – 9


Even if it’s a new day date with ceramic sleeves Gold is Gold and it’s like wearing frozen chocolate on your wrist
That's a nice way of defining the annealing process
In reality you experience no difference wearing a PM watch, at least I havent in decades
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Old 21 November 2019, 03:47 AM   #36
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so your saying if i am wearing long sleeves shirts, it could possibly stretch my bracelet too!!!!...WOW...i might have to stop wearing it on my wrist and just carry it in my hand...
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Old 21 November 2019, 04:19 AM   #37
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so your saying if i am wearing long sleeves shirts, it could possibly stretch my bracelet too!!!!...WOW...i might have to stop wearing it on my wrist and just carry it in my hand...
So are you wearing your watch on top of your sleeves?
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Old 21 November 2019, 05:25 AM   #38
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Will putting my head on a pillow at night cause my head to be deformed?

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Old 21 November 2019, 05:49 AM   #39
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So an old stretched bracelet will become good when old pins, screws, and sleeves get replaced with new?
The links themselves also wear. So new pins will help, but it won't be like new.
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Old 21 November 2019, 06:41 AM   #40
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Ha ha lol, it’s not that hard

18k Gold is a lot softer than 904l oyster Steel

The Metals Scale of Hardness

Lead – 1.5
Tin – 1.5
Zinc – 2.5
Gold – 2.5 – 3
Silver – 2.5 – 3
Aluminum – 2.5 – 3
Copper – 3
Brass – 3
Bronze – 3
Nickel – 4
Platinum – 4 – 4.5
Steel – 4 – 4.5
Iron – 4.5
Palladium – 4.75
Rhodium – 6
Titanium – 6
Hardened Steel – 7 – 8
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Even if it’s a new day date with ceramic sleeves Gold is Gold and it’s like wearing frozen chocolate on your wrist
Not so. These are Mohs scale (outdated by Brinell) figures for pure gold, which is never used for any jewelry. 18K like Rolex uses is alloyed with other metals which impart substantial hardness (see my recent post on this). Several gold alloys (like Rolex Rose Gold) are quite comparable in hardness to 904. I've had many gold and stainless watches and the difference in hardness is minor.
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Old 21 November 2019, 06:43 AM   #41
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As an addendum, no elastic material (foam, rubber etc) even compressed can distort any steel or gold unless it is extremely thin. Watch rolls will certainly not "stretch" a bracelet.
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Old 21 November 2019, 06:54 AM   #42
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This is an interesting topic. I can't imagine a watch roll putting stress on the pins that hold the bracelet pieces together. Perhaps a pillow or piece that the watch goes on in a winder could add stress if it's too large and you are forcing the closure of the clasp around it.
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Old 21 November 2019, 07:21 AM   #43
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Old 21 November 2019, 07:58 AM   #44
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Size your watch to exactly fit your wrist, and open the easy link before putting it on the roll. Also don't forget to squeeze the roll, then put the watch, and close the clasp, then release.
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Old 21 November 2019, 08:16 AM   #45
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I guess the answer is it depends. Was your pillow ever dipped in a radioactive substance? Did it belong to a distant cousin from Chernobyl?
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Old 21 November 2019, 08:53 AM   #46
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I always think stretch people see is on very old watches from lots of daily wear. It wasn't too long ago that most people had only one watch and wore it everyday for decades. The older watches had hollow links. The new watches have solid links. I would not worry about stretch on a new watch. 30 years from now, if worn everyday you might see some stretch. In a rotation as is often the case now, you may never see visible stretch.
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Old 21 November 2019, 08:57 AM   #47
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Never close the clasp around any cuff, roll, or pillow. The leverage of the clasp against an unyielding compressed lump can cause damage.

Always compress the pillow and insert it into a closed-clasp watch.
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Old 21 November 2019, 09:48 AM   #48
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Ha ha lol, it’s not that hard

18k Gold is a lot softer than 904l oyster Steel

The Metals Scale of Hardness

Lead – 1.5
Tin – 1.5
Zinc – 2.5
Gold – 2.5 – 3
Silver – 2.5 – 3
Aluminum – 2.5 – 3
Copper – 3
Brass – 3
Bronze – 3
Nickel – 4
Platinum – 4 – 4.5
Steel – 4 – 4.5
Iron – 4.5
Palladium – 4.75
Rhodium – 6
Titanium – 6
Hardened Steel – 7 – 8
Tungsten – 7.5
Tungsten Carbide – 8.5 – 9


Even if it’s a new day date with ceramic sleeves Gold is Gold and it’s like wearing frozen chocolate on your wrist
Where does it say on that scale that is 18K gold and not 24K pure gold?
Your last statement is ridiculous. Do you own a solid 18K gold watch? Have you ever daily worn one? I have owned several 904L SS watches, one TT and currently daily wear a YG Sub. After 2 1/2 years of wear, my 618LB is no worse for wear than any of my SS Subs or GMT's. "Frozen chocolate" my arse
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Old 21 November 2019, 10:55 AM   #49
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"Bracelet stretch" is a total misnomer. It's bracelet wear at the pins holding the links together. The pins wear as does the metal surrounding them. This causes greater spacing between the pins and the link with the net effect being a "lengthening" of the bracelet, ie. "stretch." Having a watch worn tight or stored on a cushion reduces movement and wear caused by movement. If anything that will reduce the likelihood of "stretch." I hope that helped y'all.
Definitely an engineer's answer Lee!
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