Seiko vs Citizen

[Chewbacca]

Anyone know what / if Citizen had a GS or King Seiko equivalent in the 70 and 80’s?

[Old Expat Beast]

I don't know much about them but Citizen had some comparable Hi-Beat (28.8 and 36) lines like the Leopard and Chrono Master that were out at around the same time as the original King Seiko and Grand Seikos (early 60s-mid 70s). It's much more of a niche market though nowadays compared to vintage GS and even KS.

Here's my Citizen Leopard Super Beat 8.

[Chewbacca]

That's a beauty Adam.

The finish work on the indices is very GS like and the crown at the 4 area is very unique.

Thanks for the info.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I don't know much about them but Citizen had some comparable Hi-Beat (28.8 and 36) lines like the Leopard and Chrono Master that were out at around the same time as the original King Seiko and Grand Seikos (early 60s-mid 70s). It's much more of a niche market though nowadays compared to vintage GS and even KS.

Here's my Citizen Leopard Super Beat 8.

Amazing watch. Wow

[Old Expat Beast]

Thanks guys. I like it. The day and date both quick-change by pressing the winding crown.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Thanks guys. I like it. The day and date both quick-change by pressing the winding crown.

What?

I’d love to see that.

[MILGAUSS88]

I think the Chronomaster was the Grand Seiko equivalent, and still is.

I believe the current generation is suppose be the most accurate wristwatch available at +/-5 seconds per year. vs 10 seconds for the 9F in the Grand Seiko.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by MILGAUSS88

I think the Chronomaster was the Grand Seiko equivalent, and still is.

I believe the current generation is suppose be the most accurate wristwatch available at +/-5 seconds per year. vs 10 seconds for the 9F in the Grand Seiko.

Some of the limited and special edition GS 9F pieces are -/+ 5 secs a year (you can tell by the five-pointed star on the dial). The latest Citizen is supposed to be -/+ one second per year.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

What?

I’d love to see that.

Its very clever. You hold the watch vertically and then...

[Chewbacca]

Brillant!

Thanks for posting Adam.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

What?

I’d love to see that.

It's not unusual buddy. I own 2 vintage 6119 that change the date that way. Not sure if both (day and date) quick change but at least one I'm sure.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by FTX I

It's not unusual buddy. I own 2 vintage 6119 that change the date that way. Not sure if both (day and date) quick change but at least one I'm sure.

Can't you let me be surprised and young again with a new discovery, Flavio?

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Can't you let me be surprised and young again with a new discovery, Flavio?

Well the upside down part is new for me as well so we're both surprised. I'll try that at home to see if works with mine too lol. but I don't think so.

[Xamy]

Wow, that's something you don't see everyday

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by FTX I

Well the upside down part is new for me as well so we're both surprised. I'll try that at home to see if works with mine too lol. but I don't think so.

It's unique to Citizen as far as I know. My 6119 and Bellmatic also click the date forward but not the day

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

It's unique to Citizen as far as I know. My 6119 and Bellmatic also click the date forward but not the day

True Adam. I've tested them all here when I got home. Both 6119 have the crown just like the Citizen, and when pressed it changes the date, but the day is not quickset. The Bellmatics, on the other hand, have the upper button with double function. Press to change the date and pull to set the alarm. The alarm time is in the inner bezel and it's adjusted in the first position on the regular crown.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

My 6119 and Bellmatic

Wait a minute. You got a Bellmatic? When? I missed that.

[Old Expat Beast]

Yep

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Yep

Love it! Huge congrats my friend

[Old Expat Beast]

Thanks buddy

[MILGAUSS88]

I just saw an ad for the Citizen's Campanola line. Another contender for the Grand Seiko equivalent.
I remember them being released, before Seiko reintroduced the GS to the USA. But they never seemed to have caught on.

If I remember right they offer some hand lacquered dials, an offer complications with quartz movements.

[Pongster]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I don't know much about them but Citizen had some comparable Hi-Beat (28.8 and 36) lines like the Leopard and Chrono Master that were out at around the same time as the original King Seiko and Grand Seikos (early 60s-mid 70s). It's much more of a niche market though nowadays compared to vintage GS and even KS.

Here's my Citizen Leopard Super Beat 8.

Nice Leopard sir. Do you also have a Glorious?

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Pongster

Nice Leopard sir. Do you also have a Glorious?

I don't. The ones I have seen are a little too Grand Seiko Grammar of Design lookalikes for me.

[Pongster]

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[javier]

Seiko

[scarlet knight]

very nice watches and interesting info.