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train-time · 27 February 2009, 01:50 PM

I need some help in finding out about the style numbers assigned by Rolex to SS GMT II's (pre-ceramic). As far as I can find out, this is how I believe it goes: 16710A = Black Dial with Red/Black Bezel; 16710B = Black Dial with Red/Blue (Pepsi) Bezel and 16710N = Black Dial with Black Bezel.

Can anybody confirm?

Thanks

SLS · 27 February 2009, 02:30 PM

The 16710 does not have a separate reference # because of the bezel insert. Hope that helps.
Scott

yannis · 27 February 2009, 04:18 PM

They have been using different letters in Europe and the States. The Pepsi in Europe is BLRO if i am right.

Andad · 27 February 2009, 04:22 PM

Hi Scott,

Sorry mate, I disagree. I have a 16710B and it is a Pepsi.

I believe the letter designates the bezel.

But hey, the experts will be here soon.

SLS · 27 February 2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

Hi Scott,

Sorry mate, I disagree. I have a 16710B and it is a Pepsi.

I believe the letter designates the bezel.

But hey, the experts will be here soon.

So your case is stamped 16710B? I would like to see pics of that?

I can understand the warranty card/paper work being different to signify the the bezel insert color, but I am guessing the case stamp is still 16710.
~Scott

train-time · 27 February 2009, 10:51 PM

Everybody seems to have a slight difference of opinion on this issue. For those disbelievers out there, there is a code associated with the bezel that was issued at the factory, at least on the newer versions. I have attached the reference link indicating that there is, at least recently a letter code immediately frolowing the 16710 model # for the bezel. I have seen this on cards and the older style papers in the US. Mine is a Z series with a balck bezel and I can confirm it has a "N" following the number meaning black bezel as indicated in this reference link.

The question deals with the pepsi and coke bezels. This reference link confirms that pepsi from the factory is "B" and coke is "A" -- it could also mean that if a watch with pepsi bezel has an "A" then the bezel must have been changed since the watch left the Rolex factory?????? Don't know ifthe bezel is authentic Rolex, do we??

Link: http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/16710B/16710B.html

Thanks, hope this helps

zak98 · 27 February 2009, 10:53 PM

papers (warantee card) for my m series pepsi state the "b". the case is stamped only with 16710

HDHNTER · 27 February 2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

hi scott,

sorry mate, i disagree. I have a 16710b and it is a pepsi.

I believe the letter designates the bezel.

But hey, the experts will be here soon.

+1

gmtobsessed · 27 February 2009, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLS

So your case is stamped 16710B? I would like to see pics of that?

I can understand the warranty card/paper work being different to signify the the bezel insert color, but I am guessing the case stamp is still 16710.
~Scott

I might be wrong, I have 16710B on the warranty card as well, but I think
this started since the introduction of new style (credit card) warranty
card

.
I believe the older (paper) warranty only state 16710 and
I believe all stamp on the case would only state 16710.

train-time · 27 February 2009, 11:41 PM

Eddie, Allen & Scott: thanks, you guys have bascially confirmed what I have been asking. The Pepsi bezel model is 16710B and it is only marked on the papers or warranty card. It is not on the case back.

I have been looking for one and there are some out there that have been changed because of the demand for the Pepsi bezel and the papers and cards do not show the "B." They have either the "N" or "A" so this makes me wonder whether the bezel is authentic Rolex??

Thanks for the confirmation on the "B" for Pepsi

Tim

Bisquitlips · 28 February 2009, 12:04 AM

Mine is a Pepsi originally and no B anywhere on the case.

27 February 2009, 01:50 PM	#1
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,151	GMT Model #'s ????? Help!! I need some help in finding out about the style numbers assigned by Rolex to SS GMT II's (pre-ceramic). As far as I can find out, this is how I believe it goes: 16710A = Black Dial with Red/Black Bezel; 16710B = Black Dial with Red/Blue (Pepsi) Bezel and 16710N = Black Dial with Black Bezel. Can anybody confirm? Thanks

27 February 2009, 02:30 PM	#2
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	The 16710 does not have a separate reference # because of the bezel insert. Hope that helps. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

27 February 2009, 04:18 PM	#3
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	They have been using different letters in Europe and the States. The Pepsi in Europe is BLRO if i am right. __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

27 February 2009, 04:22 PM	#4
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,485	Hi Scott, Sorry mate, I disagree. I have a 16710B and it is a Pepsi. I believe the letter designates the bezel. But hey, the experts will be here soon. __________________ E

27 February 2009, 10:53 PM	#7
zak98 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: TN Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,166	papers (warantee card) for my m series pepsi state the "b". the case is stamped only with 16710 __________________ Z- Submariner; P- Airking; R- DateJust; M- GMTII; C0 - Milgauss GV Breitling SuperOcean Heritage 46 Omega Speedmaster Racing Panerai PAM390

27 February 2009, 10:51 PM	#6
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,151	Everybody seems to have a slight difference of opinion on this issue. For those disbelievers out there, there is a code associated with the bezel that was issued at the factory, at least on the newer versions. I have attached the reference link indicating that there is, at least recently a letter code immediately frolowing the 16710 model # for the bezel. I have seen this on cards and the older style papers in the US. Mine is a Z series with a balck bezel and I can confirm it has a "N" following the number meaning black bezel as indicated in this reference link. The question deals with the pepsi and coke bezels. This reference link confirms that pepsi from the factory is "B" and coke is "A" -- it could also mean that if a watch with pepsi bezel has an "A" then the bezel must have been changed since the watch left the Rolex factory?????? Don't know ifthe bezel is authentic Rolex, do we?? Link: http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/16710B/16710B.html Thanks, hope this helps

27 February 2009, 11:41 PM	#10
train-time 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Plankton Location: US Watch: less Posts: 4,151	Eddie, Allen & Scott: thanks, you guys have bascially confirmed what I have been asking. The Pepsi bezel model is 16710B and it is only marked on the papers or warranty card. It is not on the case back. I have been looking for one and there are some out there that have been changed because of the demand for the Pepsi bezel and the papers and cards do not show the "B." They have either the "N" or "A" so this makes me wonder whether the bezel is authentic Rolex?? Thanks for the confirmation on the "B" for Pepsi Tim

28 February 2009, 12:04 AM	#11
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	Mine is a Pepsi originally and no B anywhere on the case. __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

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