16610lv Serial Number Question

[BrazenC5]

Originally Posted by bigfatpauli

Why does anyone care this much about the shape of a 4 exactly?

Flat 4 insert on a proper 11610LV is one of the distinctive attributes of the true 50th anniversary submariner (2003 production year). Its this first production year that carries a price premium in the market.

A full set can run $6k - $10k more vs the subsequent years.



Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[77T]

Originally Posted by djgallo

Your picture is not that good. From what I can see I would question the bezel....in particular the “0” located at “20” and “40”...it doesn’t look right to me.

That photo is suffering from post-processing misaligned pixels - and the image has several glitches around the bezel.

I circled them in red - and it is the cause of the problems noted in the 0’s in 20 & 40. In other places it’s seen as a misalignment on the bezel’s outer edge.



These are not on the bezel itself - this is in the image itself. It’s been poorly digitally done. It often happens in overlays and it’s called alpha dithering.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[djgallo]

Originally Posted by bigfatpauli

Why does anyone care this much about the shape of a 4 exactly?

The same reason collectors care about the other dial variations.....its a Collector Thing......

[djgallo]

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

Flat 4 insert on a proper 11610LV is one of the distinctive attributes of the true 50th anniversary submariner (2003 production year). Its this first production year that carries a price premium in the market.

A full set can run $6k - $10k more vs the subsequent years.


Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

That’s wishful thinking. Unrealistic to think you can currently purchase a Kermit full set “flat four” for 6K-10K. More realistic is 20K up>

[JCC296]

Originally Posted by djgallo

That’s wishful thinking. Unrealistic to think you can currently purchase a Kermit full set “flat four” for 6K-10K. More realistic is 20K up>

He meant 6k -10K "more"...

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

A full set can run $6k - $10k more vs the subsequent years.

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

[1665fan]

Hey OP just post a better pic for us....without the glitches

[Finslayer83]

Not a LV but a LN mine is a K (2001) and is a flat 4.

Not sure if that helps

[djgallo]

Originally Posted by JCC296

He meant 6k -10K "more"...

Ok. Now we’re on the same page.

[Bladeshot]

As others have indicated in previous threads, RSC is servicing LV watches and sometimes replacing the inserts with flat 4, at this moment. I like to think about a flat 4 being “proper” and an indicator of a 2003 production piece - indicating it’s from that year, the actual 50th anniversary. But that’s my perspective.

However, beyond that personal sentiment, flat 4 feels like hype. If I send my z-serial LV away for service and have a damaged insert replaced, it’s very possible to have it come back with a Flat 4 insert.

YMMV

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by Bladeshot

As others have indicated in previous threads, RSC is servicing LV watches and sometimes replacing the inserts with flat 4, at this moment. I like to think about a flat 4 being “proper” and an indicator of a 2003 production piece - indicating it’s from that year, the actual 50th anniversary. But that’s my perspective.

However, beyond that personal sentiment, flat 4 feels like hype. If I send my z-serial LV away for service and have a damaged insert replaced, it’s very possible to have it come back with a Flat 4 insert.

YMMV

I’m pretty sure there is a slight difference in the service flat4 and the original

[Bladeshot]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

I’m pretty sure there is a slight difference in the service flat4 and the original

Good point. There could be. In fact, I bet there is. The various insert versions are complex and I’m no expert. I just love my LV! Cheers.

[JCC296]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

I’m pretty sure there is a slight difference in the service flat4 and the original

Yes, there is indeed. Fonts are different.