How attached are you to your Audemars Piguet?

[Covello]

I guess I'm sort of seeking advice / insight, and I'm trying to figure out exactly what question to ask.

I was going to ask something like "would you rather have a ROC and 15202 or a 15202 and Daytona?" but I don't really think that gets to the heart of the question.

I think it really boils down to this -- how attached are you to your first AP? Could you sell it for another AP? Would you personally be happy with another AP you wanted, or you know... would your first love always hold a special place in your heart lol.

I know some people buy and sell all of the time, some people only buy, I'd love to hear from both.

A bit more context:

I currently own a 41mm ROC Panda Dial. I love it, bought it for a special occasion, that is actually somewhat tied to speed, so the choreograph is fitting. I've wanted an AP for years and it is my first one. It does feel a little big, though that doesn't bother me.

I am in the position (or maybe just want to) buy another watch. I was looking at all sorts of APs, I love the 36mm Day-Date Moonphase (I don't own a day-date or a moonphase) but blue dial would be amazing, but of course the 39mm Jumbo 15202 has always spoken to me, but I thought was out of my reach due to grey market prices.

I have been developing relationships with ADs, and I feel like I could order a 15202, so then I thought: Maybe I'll order a 15202 and then sell my ROC and get a white face Daytona (which I've always wanted, but I prolly don't need panda ROC AND a white Daytona) so the combo of blue jumbo and white Daytona would be a good pairing.

Not sure if I would miss my "first ap" or if I should keep it and get something else, or if I should as my AD for a jumbo and if I can order then trade ROC for Daytona + a bit of cash.

It's a long winded rant, but tell me what you think, just sorta curious and eager to hear as I'm quite undecided on what to do.

THANKS!!

[ap1]

I’d definitely want the Daytona C and jumbo, tough to top that ss pair. I’m not attached at all to my first this or that. I’m more attracted to shiny new stuff.

[GB-man]

I’m not sentimental about watches. Sounds odd but I’m not. Much rather have the Daytona alongside a jumbo or other AP.

Make sure you have the jumbo in hand before you sell. They are few and far between these days.

[ibr123]

I just sold my first AP (ROO) to partially finance my first PP (5524g), no regrets there. I still have AP ROC Panda in my small collection, which I absolutely love. Unless the watch has some sentimental value to me (being first AP is not that for me), I have no problem with selling it to get something I like more.


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[Token74]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I’m not sentimental about watches. Sounds odd but I’m not. Much rather have the Daytona alongside a jumbo or other AP.



Make sure you have the jumbo in hand before you sell. They are few and far between these days.

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[superdog]

Originally Posted by ap1

I’d definitely want the Daytona C and jumbo, tough to top that ss pair. I’m not attached at all to my first this or that. I’m more attracted to shiny new stuff.

I can relate to this very well.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I’m not sentimental about watches. Sounds odd but I’m not. Much rather have the Daytona alongside a jumbo or other AP.

Make sure you have the jumbo in hand before you sell. They are few and far between these days.

Same. Me neither.

[1William]

I have never owned an AP but do like them and admire the brand. I would do as I please with buying another watch. I am attached to the value of an item not the item. Sentimentality over items is not a condition I suffer from, people, that is a different story. Go get the watch you want and enjoy it. When it is time to move again, so be it.

[AK797]

I love AP and it took a few years before I eventually bought one, and I have sold my first two, a ROC and the Diver, so no sentimental attachment altho I really loved having them both.

[NYG1121]

Here in lies the problem with AP. Most people look at AP because of the RO. And once you have one RO variation (with the exception of ROO), you really don’t need another and if you do, people usually replace. This is very different from rolex where people have many subs, gmts and daytonas in their collections. Just my 2 cents

[srvrf]

I bought a 25860 maybe 5-6 years ago. It was my first AP and I traded a black dial Daytona towards it. Last year when I was making major collection moves, I had similar thoughts but eventually traded it towards a gold version 26022 and eventually bought the bracelet. When I see pictures of an older steel ROC I do think about mine but I’m very happy with my new one. There will always be an AP Royal Oak of some sort in my collection, but if the opportunity to upgrade even more presented itself, I’d at least consider it.


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[RHIII]

I too am not sentimental about watches - whatsoever. The 15202 and the Daytona are a perfect pair. And we all know the modern Daytona is simply the watch ‘everyone’ wants.

My Daytonas get - probably the most wear of the Rolex watches - nit because of the hype. Because they are SUPER comfortable. The 15202 is a staple piece in a rotation. Setting it can be a chore - but it’s a homage to the original design. Which makes it a little more special than the 5711 to me (not that I don’t like the Nautilus). 202 also wears a little more ‘sturdier’ if that makes sense.

Good luck!!!


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[maciej]

Ever since I bought my first AP I've felt like nothing really compares to the quality and how it sits on my wrist. Even as I've upgraded to the ceramic perpetual calendar, in the past two and a half months I've had it I have yet to not wear it.

[Vipes]

I’m not attached to any of my watches. I’ve missed a few watches that I’ve sold but no regrets.

If you can get the Jumbo then do that first then decide if you want to sell the ROC.

[Baco Noir]

I did sell my first AP (15400) after 5 years of ownership for 60% more than I paid for it and used the cash to trade up for my first gold watch.

[Andrew NYC]

My first AP was the Jumbo and I love it as much now as I did the day I bought it. It was always a watch on my shortlist (for many reasons). I did buy it to commemorate a new job so while there is some sentimental value to me, that is not the reason I wouldn't let it go. I wouldn't let go because I love the watch and there's no other watch I would currently trade it for.

With regard to the chrono, I have never really been a chrono guy but I certainly appreciate those who are and it's hard to argue against that the Daytona is one of (if not the) quintessential chronographs to own.

Do you have other watches in your collection? If it were me I'd take the AP Jumbo as my "sporty" dress watch (it's not really suited to extreme sports or even swimming) and I would then add something like a sub or GMT. Not that the Daytona can't stand up to water, speed and air travel, I personally would choose something a little more rugged than the Daytona. If you have that base covered go for the Daytona, it's an awesome watch and of course one of the most collectible in the current collection.

Hard really to go wrong with whatever you chose as your choices are all excellent.

[grievor]

I own the 15400st and now 15500st as well...starting to question myself do I really need 2 Royal Oaks which essentially are almost the same thing????

Probably have to sell one to make way for any future incomings...but I love them both...first world problems indeed.

[Covello]

Thank you all for the insightful replies! It's so fascinating to hear about all of your different approaches to your collection. I'm still not set on letting the ROC to get the Daytona ... the past day or two have been thinking more of just keeping the ROC and Jumbo. But we'll see!

Originally Posted by GB-man

I’m not sentimental about watches. Sounds odd but I’m not. Much rather have the Daytona alongside a jumbo or other AP.

Make sure you have the jumbo in hand before you sell. They are few and far between these days.

100% this whole thing hinges on my ability to get a Jumbo. So that's the first step. It would probably help to see a Daytona in person... too bad that has never happened lol.

Originally Posted by Andrew NYC

My first AP was the Jumbo and I love it as much now as I did the day I bought it. It was always a watch on my shortlist (for many reasons). I did buy it to commemorate a new job so while there is some sentimental value to me, that is not the reason I wouldn't let it go. I wouldn't let go because I love the watch and there's no other watch I would currently trade it for.

With regard to the chrono, I have never really been a chrono guy but I certainly appreciate those who are and it's hard to argue against that the Daytona is one of (if not the) quintessential chronographs to own.

Do you have other watches in your collection? If it were me I'd take the AP Jumbo as my "sporty" dress watch (it's not really suited to extreme sports or even swimming) and I would then add something like a sub or GMT. Not that the Daytona can't stand up to water, speed and air travel, I personally would choose something a little more rugged than the Daytona. If you have that base covered go for the Daytona, it's an awesome watch and of course one of the most collectible in the current collection.

Hard really to go wrong with whatever you chose as your choices are all excellent.

Great thoughts. I actually do own a few other watches, that also do hold sentimental value, so I gotta cut it off somewhere.

I have a Rolex GMT BLNR, my first Rolex, I'm pretty committed to never selling it and never polishing it, so that definitely ain't going nowhere. I also have an IWC Original Cousteau. I don't think I'd sell either of these.

I mean I think I would be fine selling the ROC if I had a jumbo in hand, but having two vastly different ROCs might also be an amazing combo....

[RolexZen]

Originally Posted by Covello

Thank you all for the insightful replies! It's so fascinating to hear about all of your different approaches to your collection. I'm still not set on letting the ROC to get the Daytona ... the past day or two have been thinking more of just keeping the ROC and Jumbo. But we'll see!









100% this whole thing hinges on my ability to get a Jumbo. So that's the first step. It would probably help to see a Daytona in person... too bad that has never happened lol.







Great thoughts. I actually do own a few other watches, that also do hold sentimental value, so I gotta cut it off somewhere.



I have a Rolex GMT BLNR, my first Rolex, I'm pretty committed to never selling it and never polishing it, so that definitely ain't going nowhere. I also have an IWC Original Cousteau. I don't think I'd sell either of these.



I mean I think I would be fine selling the ROC if I had a jumbo in hand, but having two vastly different ROCs might also be an amazing combo....

The BLNR was my first and only Rolex. Lot to like about that watch, but I had my own personal dislikes as well. Once I had my Jumbo confirmed incoming, I was ready to sell the BLNR. No regrets and no looking back.

[Covello]

Originally Posted by RolexZen

The BLNR was my first and only Rolex. Lot to like about that watch, but I had my own personal dislikes as well. Once I had my Jumbo confirmed incoming, I was ready to sell the BLNR. No regrets and no looking back.

Fascinating! Good to know you loved the jumbo so much. I was wearing my ROC today and I started thinking .... why the hell would I trade this for a white Daytona!? It’s so much cooler than that.




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[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by ap1

I’d definitely want the Daytona C and jumbo, tough to top that ss pair. I’m not attached at all to my first this or that. I’m more attracted to shiny new stuff.

Diamonds are shiny :)

[benlee]

My first AP is a silver 15400ST. I sold it after one year when the Jumbo comes in, thinking there's no place for both, and 3 years later, start to missed it and bought it back. As for emotional attachment, I will say it changes from time to time. I don't associate my watches to any special occasion or memory. It all depends on my mood.

[thekman]

I love my black dial 15500ST. It is my first AP and nicest watch I have owned so far but I have no doubt that if I ever get offered a 15202 or a Perpetual that I will let it go.

[KBM]

Unless tied to a very significant person in your life, they're really just objects.

The most important things in life aren't things. Sell away.

[Covello]

Originally Posted by benlee

My first AP is a silver 15400ST. I sold it after one year when the Jumbo comes in, thinking there's no place for both, and 3 years later, start to missed it and bought it back. As for emotional attachment, I will say it changes from time to time. I don't associate my watches to any special occasion or memory. It all depends on my mood.

That's so fascinating. I mean the good thing is, now you know you really wanted it. lol.

Originally Posted by thekman

I love my black dial 15500ST. It is my first AP and nicest watch I have owned so far but I have no doubt that if I ever get offered a 15202 or a Perpetual that I will let it go.

Ha, I first need a budget for a QP but that does make sense.

Originally Posted by kauebm

Unless tied to a very significant person in your life, they're really just objects.

The most important things in life aren't things. Sell away.

You are indeed right, though there is also an entire forum dedicated to these objects sooo ... :P


I actually went to Essential Watches here in LA today and tried on a black face Daytona. To be honest ... it was underwhelming. It was nice, it was cool, but it's NOTHING like a Royal Oak. So seems like I may just stay the course with the white ROC. I emailed my SA today and brought up the 15202, she said difficult but we can start, she also tried to push a CODE 11.59 on me. lol. While I do like them, I don't really want one over a Jumbo. We'll see how this goes...

[cascavel]

Originally Posted by NYG1121

Here in lies the problem with AP. Most people look at AP because of the RO. And once you have one RO variation (with the exception of ROO), you really don’t need another and if you do, people usually replace. This is very different from rolex where people have many subs, gmts and daytonas in their collections. Just my 2 cents

Excellent observation and 100% correct, at least in my case. I keep looking at the different iterations of the Royal Oak and cannot find one that I would add to my 15202st. It helps that the 41mm case of the 15400 and 15500 looks enormous to my eye.

[singe89]

Originally Posted by NYG1121

Here in lies the problem with AP. Most people look at AP because of the RO. And once you have one RO variation (with the exception of ROO), you really don’t need another and if you do, people usually replace. This is very different from rolex where people have many subs, gmts and daytonas in their collections. Just my 2 cents

How is that different with rolex? The sub, SD, DSSD, GMT, YM, OP, and daytona are pretty much the same oyster case and bracelet with minor complication and cosmetic differences. ROO aside, you still have more variety in the RO line over rolex with complications, sizes, metals, straps (metal, rubber or leather), etc. They just all happen to be under the RO name. The 15202st is vastly different than a RO grande comp, or Ti/PT ROC not so much for a Sub to GMT or even daytona.

[srvrf]

Originally Posted by singe89

How is that different with rolex? The sub, SD, DSSD, GMT, YM, OP, and daytona are pretty much the same oyster case and bracelet with minor complication and cosmetic differences. ROO aside, you still have more variety in the RO line over rolex with complications, sizes, metals, straps (metal, rubber or leather), etc. They just all happen to be under the RO name. The 15202st is vastly different than a RO grande comp, or Ti/PT ROC not so much for a Sub to GMT or even daytona.

I agree. People who give AP a hard time because they are Royal Oak driven should also be giving Rolex a hard time for being Oyster case driven. To me they're both iconic.

[NYG1121]

Originally Posted by singe89

How is that different with rolex? The sub, SD, DSSD, GMT, YM, OP, and daytona are pretty much the same oyster case and bracelet with minor complication and cosmetic differences. ROO aside, you still have more variety in the RO line over rolex with complications, sizes, metals, straps (metal, rubber or leather), etc. They just all happen to be under the RO name. The 15202st is vastly different than a RO grande comp, or Ti/PT ROC not so much for a Sub to GMT or even daytona.

I am not saying I agree with the mentality. Its just what happens. Maybe its because the RO case is so unique that people just want an AP in collection and are content with having one variation of it.