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I think I'm going to do a little buying tomorrow afternoon. Who's with me???
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I do not want to hold over the weekend, too risky for me. The data is moving too fast. I would rather miss a bit off the bottom rather than catch a falling chainsaw. Support being taken out everywhere, people are counting on a Fed rate cut which will do nothing to help. VIX closing at 37.48, I am looking for 38+ to signal a panic sell. S&P did not hold 3000, Dow down over 3000 this week. Volume is light and A/D line was only 8-1 on the down side. Not enough capitulation yet. There is more down side IMHO.
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Amen. What some people view as trying to catch a falling knife I see as dollar cost averaging. All depends on your time horizon but I'm long and strong for the foreseeable future.
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Personally I am preserving gains and looking for short term trades at this point as this is going to be a tough year based on the comps.
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I'd be careful on making any quick plays back in. S&P is over correction territory now, looking to close around -12% over the past week. It was looking to rebound earlier in the day but things slid even further in the afternoon. Is the virus a significant enough event to cause a full on bear market for an extended period of time? Given that it looks like the world is still kind of at the tip of the iceberg with it, I think I'll be patient for the time being...
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I’m not buying tomorrow. Agree that I’d rather not let the data over the weekend build.
I think I’m waiting until the dust settles. Im in no rush, and I’m not looking to get rich via the stock market. Slow and steady long term. So an extra few days, weeks or even months while things settle down won’t mean much at all in the grand scheme. Truly, I hope the bleeding stops tho. The last few days have been super painful.
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If tomorrow is similar to today I may do a little nibbling and begin my catching the proverbial knife but also I will hold them for years if not decades so I will take my lumps as the slide continues.
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Set your limits and stops accordingly, likely to be more margin calls tomorrow
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What a slaughterhouse.
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I'm a buy and holder so I am looking out years and not concerned about the near term or even the next couple of years. I am being patient so no large moves at this time but I plan to continue buying on the way down and then hold on for the ride.
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Frozen concentrated orange futures people. FCOF!!!
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I bought a ton end of day yesterday a lot...got killed today. Got greedy and thought we’d have a goood bounce...I think tomorrow will be another bad day...Friday’s on a bad week, people will be running for the hills....I got greedy...shouldn’t of. As they say pigs get fat hogs get slaughtered.
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I just checked my 5 day loss total.
I should not have done that... I had a colonoscopy/endoscopy today, but I’m opening up a bottle of wine anyway. Yes, long term. But still...ouch.
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Well it went a bit off track
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I know some people refuse to look at their accounts when we have weeks like this but unfortunately I'm not one of them either. Reminds me of 2008-09 when some were saying the entire world economy could collapse but ended up being a great opportunity for those able to weather the storm. This thing could just be getting started so I'm bracing myself for prolonged pain.
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So I’m good for a time, and I do expect this to be prolonged. Which along with everyone else is my fear.
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It’s a healthy correction IMO. Basically markets are giving back what they earned for the year (10% or so). Just my
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That is what worries me.
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It's just the law of averages. I have a very long investment horizon ahead of me so I will let my automatic investments buy at whatever price it is that day. In 40 years, it should be worth more regardless of the purchase price.
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I've been on the sidelines for a little while now.....
Bought some yesterday bought some today May buy more tomorrow deploying my dry powder like 20% at a time. Of course this is with "investable" money and not going into reserves. |
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I believe the 2000 dot com collapse was close to a 50% decline for the S&P and the 08-09 great recession was a little over 50%. Having been through both of them I am not anxious for another but I learned long ago that I can not time the market so I just buy and hold and have faith in the American economy for the long term. What is the alternative?
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Funny thing is two weeks ago the markets were shrugging this whole thing off. and now it's freakinggggg out. Which creates opportunity, particularly for those longer term investors (1 yr +) |
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Just my opinion: If you hold a stock(s), remember the investment thesis for why you invested in it. If that thesis is still sound (e.g. solid cash flow, good results quarter after quarter, increases its dividend regularly, has a competitive moat, etc-whatever you scale of value is to you) stay steady and keep to your plan if you are a longer term investor. If the company's business is sound and you can add to your position with a good price, consider it carefully.
Trying to time valleys and peaks in the market is not generally a winning strategy. Just speculating is much more risky that actual investing. |
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My cash is still on the sidelines for now.
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