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ztonsi · 3 March 2020, 01:17 PM

Looking to purchase my first luxury, after quite a bit of lurking on the threads here.

Narrowed it down to an Explorer II 16570 with black dial or an OP39 with a black dial.

Work in a moderately professional environment requiring a suit 1-2x per week.

Any thoughts?

JPMickB83 · 3 March 2020, 01:26 PM

Explorer 1. I own a Polar 16570 and the white OP39; the 16570 lacks the modern bracelet and the OP gets (dare I say) boring (and also lacks the Easylink), but the Exp 1 is a forever keeper for me. And you’re talking black dial watches, so i’m surprised the Exp1 isn’t in the mix.

kearez · 3 March 2020, 01:26 PM

OP39, for me works well with a suit, or casual wear. It would be my go to.

Explorer works as well, I feel that the OP is just on the more dressy side. Any thoughts on the Explorer I?

jrs146 · 3 March 2020, 01:39 PM

Can’t go wrong with either. I’d provably for the explorer though.

watchmework · 3 March 2020, 01:42 PM

Exp II

Randy63 · 3 March 2020, 02:03 PM

I've owned both the black dialed 16570 and the black OP39.
I couldn't warm up to the EX2 and sold it within a month of buying it.
I've had my black 114300 since this past June and I still look forward to wearing it.

My feelings about these watches are based on aesthetics.
The EX2 is arguably more useful having both the date and dual time complication

ltmgeller · 3 March 2020, 02:17 PM

Explorer II would get my vote. Happy hunting.

Rado63 · 3 March 2020, 02:17 PM

The 16570 is a classic piece, 12.2 mm thick so it fits under a cuff. Serves a two time zone function, and has a date window. It's a sport piece, it's all brushed steel, but can be dressed up. OP 39 is a nice watch but has no date and only the time function. The 16570 has an older bracelet, it's an older watch made from 1989 to 2011, while the OP39 is a newer design. Need to look around for excellent condition 16570 or buy one and do some servicing or refurbishing. The OP39 released in 2015 has a newer movement,newer bracelet, you could buy a preowned piece still under warranty. If not prepared to service a piece, then get the newer OP39. If you want vintage five digit then get the ExplorerII.

Nikrnic · 3 March 2020, 02:24 PM

Both good choices. I'd choose the Expll. It's clean and interesting with two complications while still under the radar, not flashy and fits under a suit just as well. Fun and casual weekend piece too. Best of both worlds to me.

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Cru Jones · 3 March 2020, 04:12 PM

As mentioned above, I’d take an Explorer over these 2. Good luck with your choice.

Homo Sapien X · 3 March 2020, 06:45 PM

Milgauss is unloved by many.
YM2 is hard to wear. It’s a showy watch but an ugly showy watch
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Yess · 3 March 2020, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kearez

OP39, for me works well with a suit, or casual wear. It would be my go to.

Explorer works as well, I feel that the OP is just on the more dressy side. Any thoughts on the Explorer I?

I just got done saying this on the other thread... definitely a little more dressy I feel... It might also be because my OP is so shiny and new

Mr DateJust · 3 March 2020, 08:15 PM

Explorer II hands down. Date, GMT function. The OP is a nice watch but the 16570 is one of the all time best models Rolex ever made. Works with everything. I’ve even worn mine with a tux.

nighthawk77 · 3 March 2020, 09:14 PM

Exp2 of your choices, but as others have mentioned, the 214270 is probably a good in between of the two.

SkyJuice · 3 March 2020, 10:53 PM

ExpII

BillA · 4 March 2020, 12:12 AM

I personally think the OP39 is plain and you might get sick of it soon.
While the 16570 does not blow the doors off......in one sense it has a classic look, and the other sense it has a sporty look with the red hand, larger hour markers, bezel.
I vote for the a good condition polar 16570.

rmlovett1 · 4 March 2020, 12:19 AM

If it’s your first, and a one and only...find the best example Exp and go for that. As others have said, can dress with most anything, two time zone capable, and a date. More practical/useful as a one a one and only. I really like the OP39 white dial, in a collection, but in your case...Exp

Geckobros · 4 March 2020, 12:38 AM

Having owned both (white dial OP39) and Polar 16570 I think the OP39 is the far more dressier piece. I also got bored with it, sold it and have no desire to own another in any color.

Having the 16570 I don't think it is dressy at all but I absolutely love it. I have an F series so it has the quirky font spacing, quirky GMT hand movement when adjusting (still accurate +4 s/d), markers are starting to patina and the clinky bracelet (not when worn). Again, love it.

With all that.. the OP39 certainly goes better with a suit. Just my opinion of course.

Good luck with what you decide.

3 March 2020, 01:17 PM	#1
ztonsi "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Dallas Posts: 8	OP39 or ExII 16570 Looking to purchase my first luxury, after quite a bit of lurking on the threads here. Narrowed it down to an Explorer II 16570 with black dial or an OP39 with a black dial. Work in a moderately professional environment requiring a suit 1-2x per week. Any thoughts?

3 March 2020, 01:39 PM	#4
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	Can’t go wrong with either. I’d provably for the explorer though. __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

3 March 2020, 02:17 PM	#7
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,502	Explorer II would get my vote. Happy hunting. __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

3 March 2020, 02:17 PM	#8
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	The 16570 is a classic piece, 12.2 mm thick so it fits under a cuff. Serves a two time zone function, and has a date window. It's a sport piece, it's all brushed steel, but can be dressed up. OP 39 is a nice watch but has no date and only the time function. The 16570 has an older bracelet, it's an older watch made from 1989 to 2011, while the OP39 is a newer design. Need to look around for excellent condition 16570 or buy one and do some servicing or refurbishing. The OP39 released in 2015 has a newer movement,newer bracelet, you could buy a preowned piece still under warranty. If not prepared to service a piece, then get the newer OP39. If you want vintage five digit then get the ExplorerII. __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

3 March 2020, 06:45 PM	#11
Homo Sapien X "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 237	OP39 or ExII 16570 Milgauss is unloved by many. YM2 is hard to wear. It’s a showy watch but an ugly showy watch Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 March 2020, 01:26 PM	#2
JPMickB83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: DFW Posts: 302	Explorer 1. I own a Polar 16570 and the white OP39; the 16570 lacks the modern bracelet and the OP gets (dare I say) boring (and also lacks the Easylink), but the Exp 1 is a forever keeper for me. And you’re talking black dial watches, so i’m surprised the Exp1 isn’t in the mix.

3 March 2020, 01:26 PM	#3
kearez "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: 36000FT Posts: 701	OP39, for me works well with a suit, or casual wear. It would be my go to. Explorer works as well, I feel that the OP is just on the more dressy side. Any thoughts on the Explorer I?

3 March 2020, 01:42 PM	#5
watchmework "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: DC Watch: 126710BLRO, 116600 Posts: 7,869	Exp II

3 March 2020, 02:03 PM	#6
Randy63 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scranton Watch: 16610 Posts: 996	I've owned both the black dialed 16570 and the black OP39. I couldn't warm up to the EX2 and sold it within a month of buying it. I've had my black 114300 since this past June and I still look forward to wearing it. My feelings about these watches are based on aesthetics. The EX2 is arguably more useful having both the date and dual time complication

3 March 2020, 02:24 PM	#9
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,171	Both good choices. I'd choose the Expll. It's clean and interesting with two complications while still under the radar, not flashy and fits under a suit just as well. Fun and casual weekend piece too. Best of both worlds to me. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

3 March 2020, 04:12 PM	#10
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,255	As mentioned above, I’d take an Explorer over these 2. Good luck with your choice.

3 March 2020, 08:15 PM	#13
Mr DateJust "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Glasgow, UK Watch: 16570 Posts: 909	Explorer II hands down. Date, GMT function. The OP is a nice watch but the 16570 is one of the all time best models Rolex ever made. Works with everything. I’ve even worn mine with a tux.

3 March 2020, 09:14 PM	#14
nighthawk77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: UK Posts: 1,141	Exp2 of your choices, but as others have mentioned, the 214270 is probably a good in between of the two.

3 March 2020, 10:53 PM	#15
SkyJuice "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Land of OZ Posts: 1,411	ExpII

4 March 2020, 12:12 AM	#16
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,870	I personally think the OP39 is plain and you might get sick of it soon. While the 16570 does not blow the doors off......in one sense it has a classic look, and the other sense it has a sporty look with the red hand, larger hour markers, bezel. I vote for the a good condition polar 16570.

4 March 2020, 12:19 AM	#17
rmlovett1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,465	If it’s your first, and a one and only...find the best example Exp and go for that. As others have said, can dress with most anything, two time zone capable, and a date. More practical/useful as a one a one and only. I really like the OP39 white dial, in a collection, but in your case...Exp

4 March 2020, 12:38 AM	#18
Geckobros "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Arrakis Posts: 873	Having owned both (white dial OP39) and Polar 16570 I think the OP39 is the far more dressier piece. I also got bored with it, sold it and have no desire to own another in any color. Having the 16570 I don't think it is dressy at all but I absolutely love it. I have an F series so it has the quirky font spacing, quirky GMT hand movement when adjusting (still accurate +4 s/d), markers are starting to patina and the clinky bracelet (not when worn). Again, love it. With all that.. the OP39 certainly goes better with a suit. Just my opinion of course. Good luck with what you decide.

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