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HKS724 · 17 June 2020, 02:17 AM

Hey all,

I just purchased a 16700 and was wondering aside from the vintage open 6s and 9s date wheel, were there more than one variant of the modern date wheels? Any knowledge would be lovely! Thanks.

This is a S serial (c. 1993) - the numerals seem to a bit bolder but smaller

And a U (c. 1997)

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padi56 · 17 June 2020, 02:56 AM

Over the past 50 years there has been variants in fonts, font spacing, date wheel fonts plus many others, dials were made in 3 different factories now owned by Rolex.

faimag · 17 June 2020, 04:28 AM

There is variation in pretty much everything Rolex, so I would expect there is on the date wheel fonts as well.

spacedinvader · 17 June 2020, 04:39 AM

I wonder if that’s the same one I’ve seen listed by one of this forum’s sellers that I’ve been lusting after. If so, thanks for removing the temptation - probably for the best! Enjoy this beautiful piece.

77T · 17 June 2020, 04:40 AM

Yes the GMT font looks fatter.

Agree with the earlier opinions - but I have a nagging doubt about the S GMT date wheel being OEM. The digits aren’t aligned compared to the U.

U GMT

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S GMT

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strafer_kid · 17 June 2020, 07:20 AM

16700 is a superb watch - enjoy!

HKS724 · 17 June 2020, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Yes the GMT font looks fatter.

Agree with the earlier opinions - but I have a nagging doubt about the S GMT date wheel being OEM. The digits aren’t aligned compared to the U.

U GMT

_____________________________________

S GMT

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Thanks everyone for opining. Apologies that seemed to have just been the angle from which I photographed. But yes, more concerned with the bold and smaller size. I’ve handled a few gmt’s from this era and had not seen the datewheel font deviate this much. Out of numerous dissertations on variation in a model, I wonder if there was one done on datewheels in the 16700? :D

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springer · 17 June 2020, 12:33 PM

Based on previous ownership, I believe there are at least 5 or six variations of the 16700 date wheel. I've also learned from discussions with GMT 16700 owners that 99.9999% of these owners don't worry at all or could care less about their date wheels or what version they have in their watch. Count me in the latter group.

HKS724 · 17 June 2020, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

Based on previous ownership, I believe there are at least 5 or six variations of the 16700 date wheel. I've also learned from discussions with GMT 16700 owners that 99.9999% of these owners don't worry at all or could care less about their date wheels or what version they have in their watch. Count me in the latter group.

Confrimation from the GMT savant himself is always assuring

HKS724 · 17 June 2020, 01:22 PM

On a humurous note, who actually uses their GMT Master as intended (set red hand to GMT/UTC and rotating bezel for local time)?!

I'm trying it for a few days as a means of mental maintenance during lockdown!

Recaro18 · 17 June 2020, 03:15 PM

I have one, similar condition... Insert fade is awesome!
Seems to have a bolder font date wheel. Not that it matters much ��

Henrimontgomery · 17 June 2020, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedinvader

I wonder if that’s the same one I’ve seen listed by one of this forum’s sellers that I’ve been lusting after. If so, thanks for removing the temptation - probably for the best! Enjoy this beautiful piece.

On a different forum, a guy was selling a minty 16710 with both oyster and jubilee bracelet. Thanks for my finances, somebody took the hit and saved me from myself.

17 June 2020, 02:17 AM	#1
HKS724 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Boston Posts: 149	GMT 16700 - different date wheels Hey all, I just purchased a 16700 and was wondering aside from the vintage open 6s and 9s date wheel, were there more than one variant of the modern date wheels? Any knowledge would be lovely! Thanks. This is a S serial (c. 1993) - the numerals seem to a bit bolder but smaller And a U (c. 1997) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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77T 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,427	GMT 16700 - different date wheels Yes the GMT font looks fatter. Agree with the earlier opinions - but I have a nagging doubt about the S GMT date wheel being OEM. The digits aren’t aligned compared to the U. U GMT _____________________________________ S GMT Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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springer 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,432	Based on previous ownership, I believe there are at least 5 or six variations of the 16700 date wheel. I've also learned from discussions with GMT 16700 owners that 99.9999% of these owners don't worry at all or could care less about their date wheels or what version they have in their watch. Count me in the latter group. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

17 June 2020, 03:15 PM	#11
Recaro18 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: RiCkY Location: West Coast Watch: 16520 Posts: 12,759	I have one, similar condition... Insert fade is awesome! Seems to have a bolder font date wheel. Not that it matters much �� __________________ Passion for Mechanical Timepieces! IG: @crown_in_oyster_case (Make sure you're dealing with me, Meta Verified with Blue check mark!) ~Connecting people through my passion, one timepiece at a time~

17 June 2020, 04:28 AM	#3
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	There is variation in pretty much everything Rolex, so I would expect there is on the date wheel fonts as well.

17 June 2020, 04:39 AM	#4
spacedinvader "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: London Posts: 148	I wonder if that’s the same one I’ve seen listed by one of this forum’s sellers that I’ve been lusting after. If so, thanks for removing the temptation - probably for the best! Enjoy this beautiful piece.

17 June 2020, 07:20 AM	#6
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,147	16700 is a superb watch - enjoy!

17 June 2020, 01:22 PM	#10
HKS724 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Boston Posts: 149	On a humurous note, who actually uses their GMT Master as intended (set red hand to GMT/UTC and rotating bezel for local time)?! I'm trying it for a few days as a means of mental maintenance during lockdown!

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