Incoming 16610 but wondering if bezel is upside down

[madgpol]

I'm glad you got it sorted OP but I would also be concerned about your sellers attention to detail. I know you trust him and he is old school but something like this shouldn't happen. Maybe a service with Rolex will give you peace of mind?

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by dhknola

And after a buzz back, she’s fixed!

So my guy told me the person he bought this from only had it serviced by the jewelry store he got it from in 2001, who is on the papers. They are a fancy local jewelry store and my seller surmises the original buyer took it to the jewelry shop for something and their watch maker put the bezel back on upside down (yikes) and the original buyer had been wearing it like that for years. My guy has been the game for a long time and he said this was new on him.

Anyway, still a good day for me as I while I’ve picked up the reference that got me in to watches and hadn’t had one in years. Love having the box and papers to boot and living in the swamps of New Orleans, nothing like a solid diver for climate.


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Nice pickup, welcome to the 16610 club, mine says hi!




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[Jster]

If it were me I’d return it ASAP. It can’t be good to have the bezel installed upside down. How does the insert even fit the bezel that way. No telling what else the jeweler did to it.

[J!m]

Originally Posted by dhknola

Related, is any one an expert on 16610 mk’s? I’m doing some research and see the flat four bezel like mine is a mk1, but the dial doesn’t seem to go with that bezel and is a later dial, hopefully not service, dial?
The papers indicate it was sold in 2001 and I’m just trying to piece together what should be right.


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Since I'm working on one, I needed to know this too...

As far as I can tell, ALL the 16610 inserts had flat fours; certainly up til they lost their lug holes. Even the first LVs had flat fours.

But, the "boldness" of the font did vary, either by design or wear of the tooling (no ide of cause) and I do not see any clear "guide" for this as we have for the four-digit references (i.e. "fat font" "kissing four", "long five" etc.)

I'd be curious to see some sort of chart/guide if we have one, but I've come up empty on my own.

PS watch photos in posters and catalogues may not be accurate representations. Anyone remember the LV teaser with lug holes?

[faimag]

I learned something today!

[JeromeAD]

There’s a first

[xjeeunitx]

not sure how that's even possible..........

[DCheeta]

f'n weird... how did that even work?

[LazySumday]

Have not read other responses, but wow. What seller would not catch that?


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[studioJ]

I'm usually the optimist, but I imagine you paid a considerable sum. Also sounds like you're very (rightly so), excited to own the reference itself (it's beautiful). However, if I found out my builder had put my roof on backwards, I wouldn't just want the roof fixed, I'd want the electrics, plumbing, everything in and out checked over. I can't understand how your seller wouldn't have spotted this when he was buying it, as he will surely have been in there with a loupe to try and get the price down as much as possible.

Don't feel like you need to hypothesise with stories of a rookie working on this after a heavy night - this isn't on the person who did it, it's on your seller for not spotting it, so what else hasn't he spotted.

[WS9D]

I'd probably send that thing off for service immediately. If the previous owner could wear it for that long with the bezel upside, who else knows they did to that watch. As someone else mentioned, if the jeweler can install that backwards, i'd be very concerned about the internals.

[Nikrnic]

I cant understand or even knew that it could be installed upside down. Is it possible that it's not a factory bezel....

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[Brian Page]

That is really strange...

[ltmgeller]

Glad you got it sorted out

[89Sem]

Thankfully it was a quick simple fix but now we know, Sub Reverso

[Me4u2night]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

Id be more worried about the seller than the watch......how could they put that out there if they pay any attention whatsoever to their watches

I don’t understand how this got past the dealer. I imagine they’re checking for authenticity whenever a preowned watch comes their way. This would be a big concern for me. How many other things are slipping through the cracks.

[jjfesq]

Well that’s one way to keep the teeth nice and sharp!


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Originally Posted by dhknola

So my guy told me the person he bought this from only had it serviced by the jewelry store he got it from in 2001, who is on the papers. They are a fancy local jewelry store and my seller surmises the original buyer took it to the jewelry shop for something and their watch maker put the bezel back on upside down (yikes) and the original buyer had been wearing it like that for years.

I still can't get over the previous owner wore the Sub with an upside down bezel for years and never noticed!

[joli160]

I would not let your guy come within a 1000 yards of any of my watches let alone checking out a movement for originality. Believe me, he is totally clueless

[MikeyV]

How it even possible? The insert would have to snap into the wrong side, and the wrong side would have to snap down onto the case.