More AD folklore.

[Breizh]

Originally Posted by LeftHookLacey

Not sure this passes the logic test.

1) Luxury clothes, cars, etc don't do this and bands are not damaged.

Actually many brands do:
You can go to Porsche and buy a Macan off the lot all day long but try a GT2RS, not happening.
Same thing at Ferrari, can't buy the latest and greatest off the lot as a new comer, or try a Birkin bag at Hermès.

[dsquared24]

Originally Posted by MannySDG

Just to pick up on that OP39 thing. I was looking for one at the beginning of they year just before the Virus lock downs. 1 AD told me it's no problem to get, you can still special order it and it will be here in 2 months tops (this was around January). A little later down the line when I became more serious about purchasing one (around February/March) that same AD told me it was taken off the special order list. I contacted one other AD in my area and they told me they can still special order it, but I'd have to put down 50%, have to wait a year or two until it shows up, and then I do have to buy it! I had never seen an OP in real life, so I wasn't about to buy the cat in the bag and wait an undetermined amount of time while they get to play with my money. My other AD, the only one I have a purchase history with, said they could do the same thing but that it doesn't make much sense, she happened to have a DJ41 in the configuration I wanted and I am glad I purchased that instead. Apparently none of them knew that the OP39 was going to be discontinued. I wonder what would have happened had I put the money down on one....probably a refund? Or first spot on the list for an OP41?

Interesting how much or how little AD's know about what Rolex plans are, I guess kudos to Rolex for being able to keep all those secrets.

Pretty similar experience for me. AD1 I inquired in January 2020 and they said 3-4 weeks lead time for the special order. I checked back in February and they said they had to cancel all orders for it since their rep said they would not get anymore in 2020. AD2 could not order it and did not know when they would get any in. AD3 in June actually told me that it was discontinued and they would not get anymore in. At that time I sort of scoffed at that like how would they know it was discontinued. Boy was I wrong lol.

[Rohan1806]

Originally Posted by Breizh

Actually many brands do:
You can go to Porsche and buy a Macan off the lot all day long but try a GT2RS, not happening.
Same thing at Ferrari, can't buy the latest and greatest off the lot as a new comer, or try a Birkin bag at Hermès.

Same with alot of the big fashion houses like LV or Hermes. You can't walk in and buy any product off their catalogue.

[briansp82593]

Originally Posted by joli160

Your AD sales guy

Rolex is probably the most secretive company in the world. They never disclose anything about production data ever or about anything else for that matter.

Sure. That may be the case. But no matter if it’s Rolex or the NSA, there will always be a chink in the armor.

Didn’t stop the new 126610 subs from getting leaked. Or other information in the past. The only thing of this information I shared or whatever other information you have read is whether or not it’s credible. In this case, at the very minimum, is that it can be plausible.

I’m sure others have similar situations but my sales guy is someone who I consider a personal friend, even outside the AD. I don’t suspect him to fill me up with hot air. Neither him or I have anything to benefit from that information he was gracious enough to share.

It was questionable for me to share this information on the forum, something that may have been a little more privileged than I give credit for.

[teck21]

Yeah, I think at most ADs, or chains, only a very select few have any real or serious contact with any executives from Rolex SA, and they are unlikely to share any information they have with their SA’s (probably under instruction not to).

But in the course of regular work conversation, bits of information may be revealed to SAs, who may, or may not then embellish what they’ve heard and then tell it to their clients.

So there’s really no way to tell what’s true unless one has direct access to the very few who actually know anything.

I’ve had two SAs from different ADs say Rolex wants to make discounting a thing of the past. Who knows what they’ve heard, it certainly is plausible given the current market trends, but no way to verify.

So just take everything with a pinch of salt! Everything is literally hearsay.


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[teck21]

Originally Posted by briansp82593

Sure. That may be the case. But no matter if it’s Rolex or the NSA, there will always be a chink in the armor.

Didn’t stop the new 126610 subs from getting leaked. Or other information in the past. The only thing of this information I shared or whatever other information you have read read is whether or not it’s credible. In this case, at the very minimum, is that it can be plausible.

I’m sure others have similar situations but my sales guy is someone who I consider a personal friend, even outside the AD. I don’t suspect him to fill me up with hot air. Neither him or I have anything to benefit from that information he was gracious enough to share.

It was questionable for me to share this information on the forum, something that may have been a little more privileged than I give credit for.

I think the difference is that along the entire chain of design to manufacture, marketing for the sub range for example, there are a lot of individuals who will have access to a lot of information about it.

Might even have been the guy editing the video, or he left it on his computer and fell asleep and a housemate saw it, shared it and then it spreads like wildfire on the Internet. Who knows.

Decisions regarding strategy etc made at a boardroom level are likely to be known to far fewer people, and likely executives on a higher pay scale and therefore less likely to get leaked as well.


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[Asumer]

Its fine to have some models be 'premier' - birkin bag for hermes or gt3 for porsche. (Rolex's version is the daytona). What I have a problem with is making any stainless steel model extremely difficult to get, so like 10+ models which most of which are under $10k. This strategy will really bite them down the road as a downturn is coming(at some point) and alot of customers will not forget being treated so shabbily by them.

[teck21]

Originally Posted by Asumer

Its fine to have some models be 'premier' - birkin bag for hermes or gt3 for porsche. (Rolex's version is the daytona). What I have a problem with is making any stainless steel model extremely difficult to get, so like 10+ models which most of which are under $10k. This strategy will really bite them down the road as a downturn is coming(at some point) and alot of customers will not forget being treated so shabbily by them.

Rolex isn’t making them difficult to get.

I’m sure they produce many more SS sports models than their PM equivalents.

It’s people who insist on getting one that are making them difficult to get.

Speaking of treating customers shabbily, I would argue that caving in to the demand for SS sports models is the real definition of treating customers shabbily.


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