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swizznanaz · 26 October 2020, 01:30 AM

Hello All,
I am wondering if there is a database that legit grey dealers use to filter purchasing lost, stolen, or fake serials that go around the market. The reason I am mainly asking , is I own older Rolex's and never had them serviced as I've only owned them for a short time. I had them authenticated but never took more than 10 mins. My preferred method would be to use my local AD where I have a great relationship and they have an in-house Rolex certified watchmaker for shorter turnaround times. I have read crazy stories of watches being withheld due to them being reported lost or stolen. My question is, how do legit companies distinguish whether someone is sincerely selling or going for a quick buck? I understand this is loaded but after reading where and who I should send my watch to for servicing these stories have come up.

Thanks in advance.

Also If there is a watchmaker on TRF that is immaculate please feel free to recommend him/her thanks!

jrs146 · 26 October 2020, 01:42 AM

There is a database of watches that have been reported stolen. I’m not sure if it’s public but I would imagine with the serial Rolex could tell you. I know if they recover one during a service they will confiscate it. I’d guarantee that 99% of watches sold on the secondary market are not cross referenced against any such list.

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fskywalker · 26 October 2020, 02:02 AM

Rik Dietel (Time Care Inc. in Florida) is an excellent watchmaker

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swizznanaz · 26 October 2020, 02:33 AM

Thanks to both of you, I am attempting to see if I should use my local AD w/ Watchmaker in house or local third party in the tristate area with top remarks

RayRay89 · 26 October 2020, 04:43 AM

I know my grey doesn’t. But he did tell me a story that someone bought a sub from him, bezel popped off and sent it in for service at RSC. Turned up stolen. He gave the guy a 100% refund. Now he contacted the person who he bought it from who is doing the same etc etc

joli160 · 26 October 2020, 07:22 AM

If you sell a watch to some sellers you have to ID yourself.
Would be very stupid to sell knowingly a stolen watch to a legitimate business.

26 October 2020, 01:30 AM	#1
swizznanaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Ross Location: Fairfield County Watch: AirKing 116900 Posts: 105	Second hand buyer question Hello All, I am wondering if there is a database that legit grey dealers use to filter purchasing lost, stolen, or fake serials that go around the market. The reason I am mainly asking , is I own older Rolex's and never had them serviced as I've only owned them for a short time. I had them authenticated but never took more than 10 mins. My preferred method would be to use my local AD where I have a great relationship and they have an in-house Rolex certified watchmaker for shorter turnaround times. I have read crazy stories of watches being withheld due to them being reported lost or stolen. My question is, how do legit companies distinguish whether someone is sincerely selling or going for a quick buck? I understand this is loaded but after reading where and who I should send my watch to for servicing these stories have come up. Thanks in advance. Also If there is a watchmaker on TRF that is immaculate please feel free to recommend him/her thanks!

26 October 2020, 01:42 AM	#2
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,832	There is a database of watches that have been reported stolen. I’m not sure if it’s public but I would imagine with the serial Rolex could tell you. I know if they recover one during a service they will confiscate it. I’d guarantee that 99% of watches sold on the secondary market are not cross referenced against any such list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

26 October 2020, 02:02 AM	#3
fskywalker 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,376	Rik Dietel (Time Care Inc. in Florida) is an excellent watchmaker Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 215.30.40.20.03.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

26 October 2020, 07:22 AM	#6
joli160 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,994	If you sell a watch to some sellers you have to ID yourself. Would be very stupid to sell knowingly a stolen watch to a legitimate business. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

26 October 2020, 02:33 AM	#4
swizznanaz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Ross Location: Fairfield County Watch: AirKing 116900 Posts: 105	Thanks to both of you, I am attempting to see if I should use my local AD w/ Watchmaker in house or local third party in the tristate area with top remarks

26 October 2020, 04:43 AM	#5
RayRay89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: USA Posts: 237	I know my grey doesn’t. But he did tell me a story that someone bought a sub from him, bezel popped off and sent it in for service at RSC. Turned up stolen. He gave the guy a 100% refund. Now he contacted the person who he bought it from who is doing the same etc etc

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