Only "swiss" on 14060 dial.

[El prosa]

Hello everybody, here we are again.
I found this 14060, 1997, T89..., and I really love it.
Is it an only "swiss" dial possible? I know some U could have it, but I'm not sure about this reference. What do you think, is it original and coeval? I'm also trying to contact rolex (maybe they are the only one to know what they did!). I hope someone can help me.
Thanks a lot.

[Clay]

Rolex produced a Swiss only Dial for one year for the 14060, 16600 and I believe the 16610.

[El prosa]

Cool. Do you know if this ref is ok? I know it was from '98 to '00 circa. But mine is '97... could be possible?
Thanks.

[sensui]

Pretty hard to say...usually factory swiss only dials from factory is around 1999-2000 as transition...this seems a bit early but I think service dials should be swiss made? Be interested to see others chime in.

[sghaskell]

I read somewhere that the Swiss dial is Luminova and the Swiss Made dial is Super Luminova until the switch to Chromalight in the ceramic references.

[meyers]

Originally Posted by sensui

Pretty hard to say...usually factory swiss only dials from factory is around 1999-2000 as transition...this seems a bit early but I think service dials should be swiss made? Be interested to see others chime in.

If we're talking strictly transitional Luminova, I've never seen factory swiss-only dials on anything other than U and A-serials, so this would go back as early as 1998 (and possibly 1997?)

[mtgjr]

There were some Swiss-only service dials, I believe.

[springer]

I wouldn't have an issue with it based on the serial number of T89xxxx. It's on the cusp of the transition to luminova dials.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by springer

I wouldn't have an issue with it based on the serial number of T89xxxx. It's on the cusp of the transition to luminova dials.

Agreed.
However, I would say the watch is likely to have been issued with a Tritium dial given the serial number and date of purchase 1997 is just a little bit early for any Luminova or to have SWISS at the bottom.
In that case the Tritium may have died prematurely as has happened in the past.
It has subsequently been replaced with a service dial on request of the owner.

I have also seen watches with dials made during the transition period which were marked as Tritium but they actually had Luminova along with the matching hands. It was more in 1998.

There's not much in it though, and any scenario is plausible around that era.

[El prosa]

Thanks everybody. Springer, what do you mean? I didn't understand if this is a factory dial or a service dial. What would you do with this Sumariner? Is it risky?
Thanks a lot.

[Goky]

I have an U serial 14060 from 1997 with SWISS only dial and it is the first production of this swiss only dial series at that time. After U series, they made A series in the beginning of 1998.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by El prosa

Thanks everybody. Springer, what do you mean? I didn't understand if this is a factory dial or a service dial. What would you do with this Sumariner? Is it risky?
Thanks a lot.

I'm not Springer, but I would say that T serials were produced from mid '97 well into '99 and so those 14060's and 14060M's that fall into that early changeover to Luminova could have a Swiss dial. Prefixes T, U, and A were likely being produced concurrently in '98.

Rolex did not make any changes based on a serial number. They made changes and the production numbering continued on, no matter what watch came up next in the line.

[Howie]

If it's a late U or A serial, then should be ok. This was the transition from tritium to luminova and the first dials only had 'SWISS" on the bottom.

[stevedssd]

Originally Posted by Tools

I'm not Springer, but I would say that T serials were produced from mid '97 well into '99 and so those 14060's and 14060M's that fall into that early changeover to Luminova could have a Swiss dial. Prefixes T, U, and A were likely being produced concurrently in '98.

Rolex did not make any changes based on a serial number. They made changes and the production numbering continued on, no matter what watch came up next in the line.

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