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illiguy · 3 January 2021, 04:28 AM

Saw a similar thread posted in the Rolex General Discussion section. Responses have been interesting there, so ...

What do you think the best “value” in AP is?

Value can be defined as you see fit. For example, the 15416CE or 15202ST at MSRP are great value when compared to secondary market prices - but value can mean many things.

I am biased (as an owner of a blue dial “Kasparov”), but I think the 39mm ROCs are good value in today’s market. Classic 39 mm case size and additional complication.

mario1971 · 3 January 2021, 05:23 AM

This is not a Forum of speculators and watch dealers but lovers.

singe89 · 3 January 2021, 05:41 AM

One of the best value APs still has to be the Pt 44mm ROO. It retailed for over $100k before APs price decrease to $69k and it can still be purchased around $50k. Still the same design as current 44mms and the only non LE or limited production/boutique only Pt ROO. It’s a lot of watch for the $.

illiguy · 3 January 2021, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mario1971

This is not a Forum of speculators and watch dealers but lovers.

Good one. Not talking exclusively about price speculation here. Talking about value proposition, and most interested to read about qualitative factors.

illiguy · 3 January 2021, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by singe89

One of the best value APs still has to be the Pt 44mm ROO. It retailed for over $100k before APs price decrease to $69k and it can still be purchased around $50k. Still the same design as current 44mms and the only non LE or limited production/boutique only Pt ROO. It’s a lot of watch for the $.

I’d be interested in this if I didn’t think it was, like other ROOs, too big for my wrist. This is a nice write-up.

https://www.watchcollectinglifestyle...um-ref-26401po

Amazing wrist presence, especially with added heft of platinum, I’m sure (never handled in-person).

Bearxj86 · 3 January 2021, 08:20 AM

My opinion the 42 offshores. Especially this:

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lukey77 · 3 January 2021, 08:48 AM

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My opinion the 42 offshores. Especially this:

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Love the 42 offshores. I recently bought a Ghost.

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youthagainsttt · 3 January 2021, 08:58 AM

I'd say offsore, esp the the divers with the blue/red inner ring

Watchflair · 11 January 2021, 02:25 AM

Love the ghost!

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huncho · 11 January 2021, 03:02 AM

probably offshore/divers

skeleton at retail to me seems like insane value as well, but we all know how impossible that is lol

sokoloka · 11 January 2021, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by huncho

skeleton at retail to me seems like insane value as well, but we all know how impossible that is lol

Not entirely impossible!

:)

VogelPhoenix · 11 January 2021, 04:10 AM

This one would be good value, if it wasn't for display only

huncho · 11 January 2021, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sokoloka

Not entirely impossible!

:)

amazing pic

levvity · 11 January 2021, 04:26 AM

If you’re a fan of the 44 ROO’s.. the 26400so panda and 26400io grey seem to be great values relative to others in that range.

Lamontsanders · 12 January 2021, 02:45 AM

Diver gets my vote. Not too many watches that nice under 20k.

Token74 · 12 January 2021, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lamontsanders

Diver gets my vote. Not too many watches that nice under 20k.

Yep, agree the Diver is good value. Although i think it’s now just nudged above £20k.

I recently added a 26480 which is wonderful, but not convinced it’s worth a £6k premium over the Diver.

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NYG1121 · 12 January 2021, 04:32 AM

I am not sure the word "value" and "AP" can co-exist in the current environment

vdm9 · 12 January 2021, 04:38 AM

Are we talking New or Preowned market? AP or Grey?
These add another dimension to "value"
vdm

911AP · 12 January 2021, 06:59 AM

To me the 15407 is the "best value". It cost 55k and sells for 100+.

If you are talking about bang for buck assuming retail prices and no secondary prices, then probably the RO or ROC. There is no watch under 30k that looks as nice as a RO or ROC in my opinion.

If you want to factor in secondary prices I would say any of the previous 42mm ROOs. They are all under 25k practically, and that's a lot of watch for 15-25k.

rtanjaya · 12 January 2021, 01:56 PM

Previously 26574st was of good value comparing to other PC models, but that's changed as of the recent price increase.

I think 15500st is still of good value if compared to something in the same mould of 5711

7sins · 12 January 2021, 03:59 PM

Dollar for dollar and what is easily accessible it is tough to beat the diver.

Reign · 12 January 2021, 04:38 PM

I would’ve thought the Ghost was pretty good value, especially at grey prices.

Ceramic bezel, titanium, wearability and chrono - it has it all at $28k

3 January 2021, 04:28 AM	#1
illiguy 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UTC/GMT -5 Posts: 3,671	Best Value in AP? Saw a similar thread posted in the Rolex General Discussion section. Responses have been interesting there, so ... What do you think the best “value” in AP is? Value can be defined as you see fit. For example, the 15416CE or 15202ST at MSRP are great value when compared to secondary market prices - but value can mean many things. I am biased (as an owner of a blue dial “Kasparov”), but I think the 39mm ROCs are good value in today’s market. Classic 39 mm case size and additional complication.

3 January 2021, 05:23 AM	#2
mario1971 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Mariusz Location: Poland, EU Watch: Rolex/ALS/Chopard Posts: 2,692	This is not a Forum of speculators and watch dealers but lovers. __________________ This is my opinion and I fully support it

11 January 2021, 02:25 AM	#9
Watchflair 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Jim Location: Westchester NY Watch: Love em all Posts: 5,925	Love the ghost! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Remember what matters. Value everyday

11 January 2021, 04:10 AM	#12
VogelPhoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Taiwan Posts: 3,893	This one would be good value, if it wasn't for display only Attached Images

12 January 2021, 02:45 AM	#15
Lamontsanders "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: OH Posts: 712	Diver gets my vote. Not too many watches that nice under 20k. __________________ Rolex: 114060, 116600, 116610LV, 116660 JC, 116710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 326934 x 2, 16520, 16660 x 2, 16800, 16030 Tudor: BB Pro, Pelagos LHD, P01 VC: 4500v

3 January 2021, 05:41 AM	#3
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,752	One of the best value APs still has to be the Pt 44mm ROO. It retailed for over $100k before APs price decrease to $69k and it can still be purchased around $50k. Still the same design as current 44mms and the only non LE or limited production/boutique only Pt ROO. It’s a lot of watch for the $.

3 January 2021, 08:20 AM	#6
Bearxj86 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,908	My opinion the 42 offshores. Especially this: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 January 2021, 08:58 AM	#8
youthagainsttt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: HK Watch: Piaget,Rolex,AP,HB Posts: 1,040	I'd say offsore, esp the the divers with the blue/red inner ring

11 January 2021, 03:02 AM	#10
huncho 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: nyc Posts: 6,785	probably offshore/divers skeleton at retail to me seems like insane value as well, but we all know how impossible that is lol

11 January 2021, 04:26 AM	#14
levvity "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 285	If you’re a fan of the 44 ROO’s.. the 26400so panda and 26400io grey seem to be great values relative to others in that range.

12 January 2021, 04:32 AM	#17
NYG1121 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NE Posts: 2,907	I am not sure the word "value" and "AP" can co-exist in the current environment

12 January 2021, 04:38 AM	#18
vdm9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Real Name: vasilios Location: New York Watch: datejust 41 Posts: 108	Are we talking New or Preowned market? AP or Grey? These add another dimension to "value" vdm

12 January 2021, 06:59 AM	#19
911AP "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: USA Posts: 445	To me the 15407 is the "best value". It cost 55k and sells for 100+. If you are talking about bang for buck assuming retail prices and no secondary prices, then probably the RO or ROC. There is no watch under 30k that looks as nice as a RO or ROC in my opinion. If you want to factor in secondary prices I would say any of the previous 42mm ROOs. They are all under 25k practically, and that's a lot of watch for 15-25k.

12 January 2021, 01:56 PM	#20
rtanjaya "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Singapore Watch: AP Posts: 232	Previously 26574st was of good value comparing to other PC models, but that's changed as of the recent price increase. I think 15500st is still of good value if compared to something in the same mould of 5711

12 January 2021, 03:59 PM	#21
7sins "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: B. Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 3,672	Dollar for dollar and what is easily accessible it is tough to beat the diver. __________________ Richard Mille RG RM030 \|\| Richard Mille RM72ti \|\| AP 26240 50TH Green Royal Oak Chrono \|\| AP Royal Oak Off Shore Gulf Blue 26238 \|\| AP Royal Oak Blue JUMBO SS 15202ST \|\| AP ROO Diver Green 15720ST \|\| ♕ Rolex Platinum Daytona Diamond 116506 \|\| Cartier Santos

12 January 2021, 04:38 PM	#22
Reign "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 1,211	I would’ve thought the Ghost was pretty good value, especially at grey prices. Ceramic bezel, titanium, wearability and chrono - it has it all at $28k

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