32xx movement problem poll and data thread

[TswaneNguni]

So,3235s with low amplitudes get slower .
3135s as they age actually gets slightly faster .I have two 3135s that got faster eg. 116660 was +1s,now at 10years its +3s.

Can anyone explain this difference for me ?

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

So,3235s with low amplitudes get slower .
3135s as they age actually gets slightly faster .I have two 3135s that got faster eg. 116660 was +1s,now at 10years its +3s.

Can anyone explain this difference for me ?

I had a Bluesy that held a +4 for 15 years. I really didnt even want to give it its first service at the 15 year mark.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I had a Bluesy that held a +4 for 15 years. I really didnt even want to give it its first service at the 15 year mark.

The joy around this type of ownership experience is undeniable.
The daily wearer MK II 116660 i have on my wrist ATM is running at around - 3 seconds per day and has done since the day I bought it new in 2011 with 1 service under it's belt.

But we are primarily here to establish the bonafides of the 32xx series movements, which i think has been well established by now.
With all credit to Jeff and saxo3 for starting this much needed thread

As a group, we just need to wait see what happens on the mothership's end

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I had a Bluesy that held a +4 for 15 years. I really didnt even want to give it its first service at the 15 year mark.

Well,thats exactly where my 2007 Blue TT Sub is at +3 to +4 .

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Well,thats exactly where my 2007 Blue TT Sub is at +3 to +4 .

Thank the lord for all the updates which have been applied to that series of movements over the years.
Imagine how great the new ones will be when Rolex finally get around to applying the necessary updates to that one as well.

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Thank the lord for all the updates which have been applied to that series of movements over the years.
Imagine how great the new ones will be when Rolex finally get around to applying the necessary updates to that one as well.

2015-2021 ,well,its about time ! How long do they need ?

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

2015-2021 ,well,its about time ! How long do they need ?

Have a little faith baby.
Have a little faith.
Just keep sending out those positive waves

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

So,3235s with low amplitudes get slower .
3135s as they age actually gets slightly faster .I have two 3135s that got faster eg. 116660 was +1s,now at 10years its +3s.

Can anyone explain this difference for me ?

Low amplitude due to or dropping can result in faster oscillation. It happens with my nomos.

The 32xx it’s slowing down due to increased friction.


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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by amanbra

Low amplitude due to or dropping can result in faster oscillation. It happens with my nomos.

The 32xx it’s slowing down due to increased friction.


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Or is it simply a matter of torque delivery when we are looking at data points derived from a partially wound down watch.
As Padi has mentioned a twin Spring barrel is generally accepted as the best solution.

I do accept the curiosity factor from amateurs on an internet forum who have no possible practical use for data they losely gather, which Rolex will already have in thier closely guarded possession

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Or is it simply a matter of torque delivery when we are looking at data points derived from a partially wound down watch.
As Padi has mentioned a twin Spring barrel is generally accepted as the best solution.

I do accept the curiosity factor from amateurs on an internet forum who have no possible practical use for data they losely gather, which Rolex will already have in thier closely guarded possession

Yeah lower torque means the balance wheel is pushed less resulting in a faster oscillation. I don’t understand your amateur comment but this isn’t hard to understand.


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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by amanbra

Yeah lower torque means the balance wheel is pushed less resulting in a faster oscillation. I don’t understand your amateur comment but this isn’t hard to understand.


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Lower torque does indeed lower amplitude but i wonder about two factors not fully explored.
Firstly, what is the actual torque curve delivery from the Main spring from go to wo.
Secondly, what effect or inter-relationship does it have with the Chronergy Escapement.

As i've said previously on the forum.
On paper, both items probably are great in their own right.
Is it possible they don't necessarily play that well together?

But that's just the amateur in me thinking out aloud.
Which i believe is fair enough as this is only an internet forum mostly comprised of amateurs.
Hense my reference to amateures being in respect to Horological capabilities.
Of course, that's not taking anything away from amateures in general

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by Dirt

Lower torque does indeed lower amplitude but i wonder about two factors not fully explored.

Firstly, what is the actual torque curve delivery from the Main spring from go to wo.

Secondly, what effect or inter-relationship does it have with the Chronergy Escapement.



As i've said previously on the forum.

On paper, both items probably are great in their own right.

Is it possible they don't necessarily play that well together?



But that's just the amateur in me thinking out aloud.

Which i believe is fair enough as this is only an internet forum mostly comprised of amateurs.

Hense my reference to amateures being in respect to Horological capabilities.

Of course, that's not taking anything away from amateures in general

Look I don't know the how it affects the new escapement but this is what I do know:



1. My Omega with a 8500, 1863 and Nomos Lambda, Daytona, and YM40 get faster in the last 24 hours of it's PR. int he last 12 hrs or so it then slows right back down.



2. The 8500 and Nomos Lambda are double barrel and yes the timing keeping more stable for longer. There is of course a drop off though as torque does drop off at some point.



3. my DJ36 is running lower amplitude again and slows down a tonne towards the end.



4. the positional time variance between my YM40 and DJ36 both with 3235 is huge.

5. The nomos lambda has a 84hr pr it’s super interesting how the timing fluctuates over the span of this pr.