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enjoythemusic · 5 April 2021, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thsiao

How much of this is due to the “new” CEO. I reckon he didn’t exactly save Roger Dubois. And for what it’s worth, it looks like RD is actually releasing nicer pieces now since his departure.

Wow wonderful point as early Rogier timepieces were INCREDIBLE! Still kicking myself i did not get one of the early RG with fancy crystal and applied Breguet numbers. So you're saying he's the reason RD went downhill? Major bummer, and hopefully PAM can backtrack asap before it's too late.

rambo99 · 5 April 2021, 11:09 PM

looks like panerai dont quite understand what their customers actually want, they just throw out a number of little variation versions of the same model again and again. hoping that at least one of the variations become a hot seller.

waterman1 · 6 April 2021, 03:14 AM

Great point. A quote from Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai, while at RD - “Of course you need to create spectacular platforms, spectacular products, limited editions, crazy materials“. And I think this is the mindset of Panerai today. He may not be the right person to lead a product group based on history and a unique character that has stood the test of time such as Panerai.

itsjknight · 6 April 2021, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by waterman1

Great point. A quote from Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai, while at RD - “Of course you need to create spectacular platforms, spectacular products, limited editions, crazy materials“. And I think this is the mindset of Panerai today. He may not be the right person to lead a product group based on history and a unique character that has stood the test of time such as Panerai.

Completely agree!

bonovox · 6 April 2021, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by waterman1

Great point. A quote from Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai, while at RD - “Of course you need to create spectacular platforms, spectacular products, limited editions, crazy materials“. And I think this is the mindset of Panerai today. He may not be the right person to lead a product group based on history and a unique character that has stood the test of time such as Panerai.

enjoythemusic · 6 April 2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by waterman1

Great point. A quote from Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai, while at RD - “Of course you need to create spectacular platforms, spectacular products, limited editions, crazy materials“. And I think this is the mindset of Panerai today. He may not be the right person to lead a product group based on history and a unique character that has stood the test of time such as Panerai.

Personally agree with you. I get Panerai and Tron tho and love it. PAM and great lume... to the extreme. Some of the other 'experiments', am sorry to say maybe not so much.

I will say, PAM USA and Bob in Naples have ALWAYS been a pleasure. If it wasn't for their wonderful, enthusiastic, graciousness I'd have bailed from the brand. Thx PAM USA and Bob

thsiao · 6 April 2021, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by waterman1

Great point. A quote from Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai, while at RD - “Of course you need to create spectacular platforms, spectacular products, limited editions, crazy materials“. And I think this is the mindset of Panerai today. He may not be the right person to lead a product group based on history and a unique character that has stood the test of time such as Panerai.

Yup exactly. It’s not about coming up with “new” materials every year and then forgetting their groundbreaking technological materials from the year before. Completely lost in terms of strategic direction in my opinion. It’s more about fad than creating iconic and timeless pieces at the moment. A true travesty.

enjoythemusic · 6 April 2021, 09:21 PM

To be fair to Panerai, i have warmed up to overpaying for a PAM timepiece provided yet get a 'free' ''experience" with one of their sponsored explorers. i feel SCUBA diving with one of their sponsored experts has value and does provide a great PR opportunity for Panerai that is aligned with the company's history.

6XYBE63ST · 7 April 2021, 07:22 AM

i prefer the 1020 over the 1111, 1020 is more balanced....

burneyr · 7 April 2021, 11:17 PM

How disappointing - these releases are so meh.

I formally apologize for making fun of the Tron watch last year. It is looking pretty good right now.

I can't believe the 372 is gone.

tedo · 8 April 2021, 12:18 AM

hmmm ... aesthetically, will have to take a pass on the new gradient dial models. Prefer matte on Panerai vs. these or sun brushed/burst as well

some of the other releases look quite nice however

CanPam · 8 April 2021, 01:40 AM

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japenney · 8 April 2021, 02:24 AM

Why are people saying the 372 and 422 are gone?? They are still both on the website.

eonflux · 8 April 2021, 04:16 AM

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These ones are really nice...Attachment 1213570 Attachment 1213571

A blue dial version of the 317 would be cool, so the 1135 looks good to me.
I'll have to see the 1135 in person, though, because I may prefer a matte blue dial instead of the shinier sunburst.

Like how the 317 with the matte black dial has an overall stealthy look. A nice contrast with many of my other watches.

Cru Jones · 8 April 2021, 04:42 AM

Well, for better or worse, Panerai at least keeps it interesting compared to Rolex....

Cru Jones · 8 April 2021, 08:02 AM

Saw this on FB. Nice side by side.

thsiao · 8 April 2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CanPam

These ones are really nice...Attachment 1213570 Attachment 1213571

I don’t see those white Submersibles in their website?

louie · 8 April 2021, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CanPam

Limited to 500 pieces/year but not a Limited Edition...

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought it's boutique exclusive.....?

CanPam · 9 April 2021, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by louie

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought it's boutique exclusive.....?

It's Boutique only with 500 pieces/year.

CanPam · 9 April 2021, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thsiao

I don’t see those white Submersibles in their website?

It seems that we have to wait a bit...

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WatchThinker · 9 April 2021, 09:27 PM

I’m hoping we will see some radiomirs? The website is still sparse.

56Diver · 10 April 2021, 08:31 PM

I went to panerai because I’m a larger guy and I liked the 47mm options

Are any of the new watches 47mm?

CanPam · 11 April 2021, 12:44 AM

Yes, there is something for all wrist sizes, from 38 to 47mm...

Saoirse32 · 11 April 2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ap1

Wow, they just blew my 1209 out of the water. Sheesh

Mine hacks lol

Ha! Although, I prefer the 1209 since it has the black dial and blue bezel. Plus the hacking matters (to me). And for the win- it is a limited edition of only 500!
My 2 cents...

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Etschell · 12 April 2021, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Saw this on FB. Nice side by side.

Like the 1074

Mystro · 12 April 2021, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CanPam

It seems that we have to wait a bit...

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That combo is "crispy" clean.

Jonzy · 5 May 2021, 12:46 PM

eSteel??

GreenLantern · 5 May 2021, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonzy

eSteel??

I like 'em. Just wish they didn't say "eSteel" on the dial.

KBM · 6 May 2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Etschell

Like the 1074

Agreed! Despite the hefty price tag, it looks great.

Trenden · 11 May 2022, 05:28 AM

I haven't purchased a Panerai since my 111 almost 15 years ago (which I still LOVE), but I'm really loving the new 44mm submersibles. Great size...and I don't get hung up on movement decoration or hacking. My 111 doesn't hack and my Rolex GMT Batman has a completely undecorated movement...which you can't see anyway.

I personally don't care about the eSteel recycling marketing gimmick (seriously, how much steel goes into a car compared to a watch? Seems like a drop in the ocean) but regardless...they look so darn good I'm probably going to buy one anyway. I've always wanted a submersible but 47mm felt big and 42mm felt just a tad small for a Panerai so these 44mm versions are exciting. I just can't decide between the blue, green and grey versions. Green is super trendy right now....and I love it...but I'll probably go with grey.

6 April 2021, 09:21 PM	#68
enjoythemusic 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 22,218	To be fair to Panerai, i have warmed up to overpaying for a PAM timepiece provided yet get a 'free' ''experience" with one of their sponsored explorers. i feel SCUBA diving with one of their sponsored experts has value and does provide a great PR opportunity for Panerai that is aligned with the company's history. __________________ __________________ Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

8 April 2021, 01:40 AM	#72
CanPam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 652	These ones are really nice... __________________ instagram.com/wristlaw

8 April 2021, 02:24 AM	#73
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	Why are people saying the 372 and 422 are gone?? They are still both on the website. __________________ Follow me on Instagram to see my watch journey @Japenney

11 April 2021, 12:44 AM	#83
CanPam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Spain Posts: 652	Yes, there is something for all wrist sizes, from 38 to 47mm... __________________ instagram.com/wristlaw

11 May 2022, 05:28 AM	#90
Trenden "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 17	eSteel 44mm Submersibles I haven't purchased a Panerai since my 111 almost 15 years ago (which I still LOVE), but I'm really loving the new 44mm submersibles. Great size...and I don't get hung up on movement decoration or hacking. My 111 doesn't hack and my Rolex GMT Batman has a completely undecorated movement...which you can't see anyway. I personally don't care about the eSteel recycling marketing gimmick (seriously, how much steel goes into a car compared to a watch? Seems like a drop in the ocean) but regardless...they look so darn good I'm probably going to buy one anyway. I've always wanted a submersible but 47mm felt big and 42mm felt just a tad small for a Panerai so these 44mm versions are exciting. I just can't decide between the blue, green and grey versions. Green is super trendy right now....and I love it...but I'll probably go with grey.

5 April 2021, 11:09 PM	#62
rambo99 Banned Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Tokyo Watch: SD43,PAM1616,Hulk Posts: 3,567	looks like panerai dont quite understand what their customers actually want, they just throw out a number of little variation versions of the same model again and again. hoping that at least one of the variations become a hot seller.

6 April 2021, 03:14 AM	#63
waterman1 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: USA Posts: 964	Great point. A quote from Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai, while at RD - “Of course you need to create spectacular platforms, spectacular products, limited editions, crazy materials“. And I think this is the mindset of Panerai today. He may not be the right person to lead a product group based on history and a unique character that has stood the test of time such as Panerai.

7 April 2021, 07:22 AM	#69
6XYBE63ST Banned Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: kommyfornia Posts: 202	i prefer the 1020 over the 1111, 1020 is more balanced....

7 April 2021, 11:17 PM	#70
burneyr "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Burney Location: N. Florida Posts: 69	How disappointing - these releases are so meh. I formally apologize for making fun of the Tron watch last year. It is looking pretty good right now. I can't believe the 372 is gone.

8 April 2021, 12:18 AM	#71
tedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: CA Posts: 476	hmmm ... aesthetically, will have to take a pass on the new gradient dial models. Prefer matte on Panerai vs. these or sun brushed/burst as well some of the other releases look quite nice however

8 April 2021, 04:42 AM	#75
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 36,174	Well, for better or worse, Panerai at least keeps it interesting compared to Rolex....

8 April 2021, 08:02 AM	#76
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 36,174	Saw this on FB. Nice side by side.

9 April 2021, 09:27 PM	#81
WatchThinker "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: In a city Posts: 377	I’m hoping we will see some radiomirs? The website is still sparse.

10 April 2021, 08:31 PM	#82
56Diver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 135	I went to panerai because I’m a larger guy and I liked the 47mm options Are any of the new watches 47mm?

5 May 2021, 12:46 PM	#87
Jonzy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Justin Location: Nor Cal Watch: AP Camo Posts: 17	eSteel??

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