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Rolessor82 · 4 April 2021, 01:11 AM

Hi guys,

I'm being offered this long e 1675 from the late 60s. Price is $27,000 (a bit expensive I guess).

It's got really nice patina.

Alex The Watch Guy · 4 April 2021, 01:37 AM

Killer watch with killer price. Case has been recut and the insert is definitely not period correct, might be a blueback which would detract from value.

newkidonblock4 · 4 April 2021, 02:04 AM

27k seems a bit high.

Also, it may be the lighting/crystal, but the lume at 8 o'clock looks slightly damaged.

It looks like a zinc sulfide dial (seen in 1.6-1.8 SN I think and are green) though. They still glow a bit under UV, which is pretty cool.

Is the bracelet at least a 7206/58?

lee fowler · 4 April 2021, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by newkidonblock4

27k seems a bit high.

Also, it may be the lighting/crystal, but the lume at 8 o'clock looks slightly damaged.

It looks like a zinc sulfide dial (seen in 1.6-1.8 SN I think and are green) though. They still glow a bit under UV, which is pretty cool.

Is the bracelet at least a 7206/58?

Looks like a 7836 which would not be correct either!

Tom1675 · 4 April 2021, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex The Watch Guy

Killer watch with killer price. Case has been recut and the insert is definitely not period correct, might be a blueback which would detract from value.

Agreed blueback insert and everything else commented here. This watch is not worth $27k, maybe 15K...

BrazenC5 · 4 April 2021, 06:47 AM

Yah, $27K for matte dial...looking for a sucker.

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northland0 · 4 April 2021, 06:50 AM

That price point really doesn’t feel right ($10k+ too high even with b+p), unless I’m missing something — in which case please enlighten me :)

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stmoore · 4 April 2021, 07:32 AM

“I’m being offered this ...” and this and this and this and this and this

Rolessor82 · 4 April 2021, 07:50 AM

Hey guys,
The seller is from europe, vintagewatchparis, never bought from him. I'm looking to buy a watch, but beforehand I try to get honest reviews outside the seller. If the watch was brand new I wouldn't be asking, but since it's vintage and I've made some mistakes in the past I'm looking not to repeat them.
This watch comes with B+P although the seller hasn't posted them. The pics are from his Instagram. He has some amazing pieces although I feel everytime you ask him something, I feel like he doesn't like it. I have a friend who is also a seller from Europe and has told me the same thing about him. But if you look at his past inventory, nice looking pieces in almost perfect condition.

Tom1675 · 4 April 2021, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolessor82

Hey guys,
The seller is from europe, vintagewatchparis, never bought from him. I'm looking to buy a watch, but beforehand I try to get honest reviews outside the seller. If the watch was brand new I wouldn't be asking, but since it's vintage and I've made some mistakes in the past I'm looking not to repeat them.
This watch comes with B+P although the seller hasn't posted them. The pics are from his Instagram. He has some amazing pieces although I feel everytime you ask him something, I feel like he doesn't like it. I have a friend who is also a seller from Europe and has told me the same thing about him. But if you look at his past inventory, nice looking pieces in almost perfect condition.

Just keep posting here with candidates. Finding the right piece takes a bit of time and is a lot of the fun, you will learn a lot. You've learned here that insta is great and there's lots of watch porn on the platform, but anyone can post a pic of a watch, it doesn't mean they sold it or ever even had it in their hands.

Rolessor82 · 4 April 2021, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom1675

Just keep posting here with candidates. Finding the right piece takes a bit of time and is a lot of the fun, you will learn a lot. You've learned here that insta is great and there's lots of watch porn on the platform, but anyone can post a pic of a watch, it doesn't mean they sold it or ever even had it in their hands.

Right on. Thanks a lot!

slimwristy · 8 April 2021, 07:33 AM

I've seen the vintagewatchparis insta and they charge a bit of a premium compared to everyone else. Which might be what you're paying for, given experience and expertise?

I'm not as well versed as the other peeps on the forum but 27k seems pretty steep especially when I recall recently reading that a rare radial dial 1675 was on Hodinkee's site for a fairly similar price.

slimwristy · 8 April 2021, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex The Watch Guy

Killer watch with killer price. Case has been recut and the insert is definitely not period correct, might be a blueback which would detract from value.

Hey Alex, hope you're well.

Interested to learn, how can you tell if a case has been recut?

@orariofisso · 8 April 2021, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by slimwristy

Hey Alex, hope you're well.

Interested to learn, how can you tell if a case has been recut?

Those chamfers are ridiculously clean and sharp for a watch from the 60s.

stmoore · 8 April 2021, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by @orariofisso

Those chamfers are ridiculously clean and sharp for a watch from the 60s.

Recut, and more than likely from the very late 60s, like 69.

Alex The Watch Guy · 8 April 2021, 09:22 AM

It’s common sense. How can a case look that clean on a 50yr+ old watch. I bet if you look between the lugs, you will have your answer.

linesiders · 8 April 2021, 09:25 AM

Watch is way high on price

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex The Watch Guy

It’s common sense. How can a case look that clean on a 50yr+ old watch. I bet if you look between the lugs, you will have your answer.

Screw the watch. I want to know about the GT in your profile pic

zapokee · 8 April 2021, 09:33 AM

I always scroll straight to Springer on GMT threads.

Alex The Watch Guy · 8 April 2021, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by linesiders

Watch is way high on price

Screw the watch. I want to know about the GT in your profile pic

That was taken at Bonhams Monterey in ‘19, belonged to a dear friend and was sold at auction. Had an unforgettable drive on PCH in that car.

TimeLord2 · 8 April 2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by zapokee

I always scroll straight to Springer on GMT threads.

So true!

Rolessor82 · 8 April 2021, 01:18 PM

Thank you all.
Just an update: the watch was sold. Not to me haha I took your comments seriously and avoided it. Based on your comments it wasn't worth it (at least to me).
This id part of the journey, search, learn and buy or not.

linesiders · 8 April 2021, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex The Watch Guy

That was taken at Bonhams Monterey in ‘19, belonged to a dear friend and was sold at auction. Had an unforgettable drive on PCH in that car.

I am tempted every now and then to sell all my watches for one ; )

330ci · 8 April 2021, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by linesiders

I am tempted every now and then to sell all my watches for one ; )

They had one on top of the Ford plant for years. I always wondered what happened to that car when they took it down. Always dreamed of owning one when they became “cheap enough” but alas they caught on before that ever happened lol

Amazing they had a hard time selling these back in the day

gur1982 · 9 April 2021, 02:47 AM

Great looking insert

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Cktang · 27 April 2021, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex The Watch Guy

Killer watch with killer price. Case has been recut and the insert is definitely not period correct, might be a blueback which would detract from value.

Yes I agree with that. You should be looking at an insert with a fat font. This could affect the value by a fair bit.

1665fan · 27 April 2021, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gur1982

Great looking insert

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Yea real nice service insert LOL

springer · 27 April 2021, 11:35 PM

Not a GT but a Shelby GT!!! Sold it a year ago.

Back to the vintage discussion.

faimag · 28 April 2021, 02:38 AM

I like it but certainly not for 27K! Is it a full set?

Rolessor82 · 29 April 2021, 11:05 AM

Thank you all. I didn't buy it. I appreciate your help.
The dealer sold it already, it was complete set but since I walked out, I never got the chance to see the box and papers.

Mk2rick · 5 July 2021, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex The Watch Guy

It’s common sense. How can a case look that clean on a 50yr+ old watch. I bet if you look between the lugs, you will have your answer.

sorry, i was curious about your comment and would like to enquire further on what you meant?

I'm just getting into vintage watches myself and I heard alot about fake cases from Vietnam that may be passed off as genuine cases. I've even read that these cases even have fake serial numbers and model numbers THAT CAN BE CUSTOMISED (

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4 April 2021, 01:37 AM	#2
Alex The Watch Guy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: @Home Posts: 245	Killer watch with killer price. Case has been recut and the insert is definitely not period correct, might be a blueback which would detract from value.

4 April 2021, 02:04 AM	#3
newkidonblock4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 135	27k seems a bit high. Also, it may be the lighting/crystal, but the lume at 8 o'clock looks slightly damaged. It looks like a zinc sulfide dial (seen in 1.6-1.8 SN I think and are green) though. They still glow a bit under UV, which is pretty cool. Is the bracelet at least a 7206/58?

4 April 2021, 06:47 AM	#6
BrazenC5 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: 1665,1675,1680,SD4 Posts: 1,837	Yah, $27K for matte dial...looking for a sucker. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk

4 April 2021, 06:50 AM	#7
northland0 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: New York Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 17	That price point really doesn’t feel right ($10k+ too high even with b+p), unless I’m missing something — in which case please enlighten me :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4 April 2021, 07:32 AM	#8
stmoore Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: US Watch: Gilt Posts: 1,592	“I’m being offered this ...” and this and this and this and this and this

4 April 2021, 07:50 AM	#9
Rolessor82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Caribbean Posts: 438	Hey guys, The seller is from europe, vintagewatchparis, never bought from him. I'm looking to buy a watch, but beforehand I try to get honest reviews outside the seller. If the watch was brand new I wouldn't be asking, but since it's vintage and I've made some mistakes in the past I'm looking not to repeat them. This watch comes with B+P although the seller hasn't posted them. The pics are from his Instagram. He has some amazing pieces although I feel everytime you ask him something, I feel like he doesn't like it. I have a friend who is also a seller from Europe and has told me the same thing about him. But if you look at his past inventory, nice looking pieces in almost perfect condition.

8 April 2021, 07:33 AM	#12
slimwristy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 96	I've seen the vintagewatchparis insta and they charge a bit of a premium compared to everyone else. Which might be what you're paying for, given experience and expertise? I'm not as well versed as the other peeps on the forum but 27k seems pretty steep especially when I recall recently reading that a rare radial dial 1675 was on Hodinkee's site for a fairly similar price.

8 April 2021, 09:22 AM	#16
Alex The Watch Guy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: @Home Posts: 245	It’s common sense. How can a case look that clean on a 50yr+ old watch. I bet if you look between the lugs, you will have your answer.

8 April 2021, 09:33 AM	#18
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,366	I always scroll straight to Springer on GMT threads.

8 April 2021, 01:18 PM	#21
Rolessor82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Caribbean Posts: 438	Thank you all. Just an update: the watch was sold. Not to me haha I took your comments seriously and avoided it. Based on your comments it wasn't worth it (at least to me). This id part of the journey, search, learn and buy or not.

9 April 2021, 02:47 AM	#24
gur1982 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Belgium Posts: 17	Great looking insert Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 April 2021, 02:38 AM	#28
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	I like it but certainly not for 27K! Is it a full set?

29 April 2021, 11:05 AM	#29
Rolessor82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Caribbean Posts: 438	Thank you all. I didn't buy it. I appreciate your help. The dealer sold it already, it was complete set but since I walked out, I never got the chance to see the box and papers.

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