Deepsea losing time on winder

[Rybark09]

Hey all,

Scratching my head here. When I wear my deepsea consistently, keeps close to impeccable time. If I leave it on my winder, after a few days it stops (after reserve depletes). I’m losing my mind here, user error? Winder setting is correct. Watch issue?

[Mystro]

What winder tpd and what resting position does the watch sit on the winder?

[OrangeSport]

Quite a few of our watches run slower on the winders

[padi56]

If you must use a winder always best to fully manual wind first before putting on the machine.And gravity effects mechanical movement the most this is why they are tested in 5 different positions.On one of these machine winder things the watch is normally in one repetitive back and throe position, and not like when on the wrist, so there could be a slight difference on the machine.

[PhilippeD]

It goes slower once the juice starts running out. I didn't wear my Deepsea for three days, and in the last 24 hours it lost 15 seconds. As the poster above suggests, just fully manual wind first and then wear it or put it on the winder. After a couple of days, full wind again.

[Watchsama]

I think it's too heavy for the winder. Had a similar problem with my first winder

[nGage7962]

My Deepsea has not been right since its service 2 years, but running way too fast!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by nGage7962

My Deepsea has not been right since its service 2 years, but running way too fast!

And what is way too fast.?

[Ganymede]

Originally Posted by padi56

If you must use a winder always best to fully manual wind first before putting on the machine.And gravity effects mechanical movement the most this is why they are tested in 5 different positions.On one of these machine winder things the watch is normally in one repetitive back and throe position, and not like when on the wrist, so there could be a slight difference on the machine.

I’m not sure that is a good idea.

If you manually wind it fully before putting it in the winder, subsequently putting it in the winder will repeatedly activate the clutch that prevents over-winding.

As I understand it, watch windsrs typically wind enough to maintain, and won’t allow the watch to lose wind.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Ganymede

I’m not sure that is a good idea.

If you manually wind it fully before putting it in the winder, subsequently putting it in the winder will repeatedly activate the clutch that prevents over-winding.

As I understand it, watch windsrs typically wind enough to maintain, and won’t allow the watch to lose wind.

First there is no clutch all that happens when the mainspring is fully wound it just slips in the spring-barrel, just like it would do on the finest winder in the world called wrists. Second its doubtful if say you put a watch on a machine winder it would still only top up to whatever was in the mainspring power reserve to start with. And very doubtful if any of these machine winders will ever top up the mainspring to full power. As most are programmed to around 600 -750 turns a day just enough to keep them ticking and thats about all.

[Andad]

Hi Peter,

Originally Posted by padi56

First there is no clutch all that happens when the mainspring is fully wound it just slips in the spring-barrel, just like it would do on the finest winder in the world called wrists.

Some do refer to it a ‘clutch’. Probably because clutches can and do slip under load?


Second its doubtful if say you put a watch on a machine winder it would still only top up to whatever was in the mainspring power reserve to start with.

I’m not sure of your meaning but I have used watch winders and they have wound my watches up to full power reserve.
How would a winder know the original power reserve of a watch it was winding?

And very doubtful if any of these machine winders will ever top up the mainspring to full power.

I have no doubt that they can and mine have.


As most are programmed to around 600 -750 turns a day just enough to keep them ticking and thats about all.

Based on the TPD question being a common request for different models most seem to be manually programmed by the user so adding a few more TPD to be sure it winds up could be a common event?



Eddie.

[nGage7962]

Originally Posted by padi56

And what is way too fast.?

Well on same setting on same winder with my DJ41 or Tudor GMT it gains minutes in weeks relative to the others. So ... now that our lockdown is over a visit to the RSC is in order and somewhat overdue.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by nGage7962

Well on same setting on same winder with my DJ41 or Tudor GMT it gains minutes in weeks relative to the others. So ... now that our lockdown is over a visit to the RSC is in order and somewhat overdue.

Have you tried wearing them on your wrist for a few days, or if not needed to tell time on wrist just let them stop, as on the wrist they could be more accurate than on the machine.

[alphadweller]

Originally Posted by PhilippeD

It goes slower once the juice starts running out. I didn't wear my Deepsea for three days, and in the last 24 hours it lost 15 seconds. As the poster above suggests, just fully manual wind first and then wear it or put it on the winder. After a couple of days, full wind again.

+1

Similar pattern in my SD43. In the last day of its power reserve, I see a drop of 5s/d on average, depending on the resting position.