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Stan Cooper · 7 November 2021, 03:55 AM

I'm curious about the letter suffix on my P-serial 16710 GMT Master. The original paperwork shows it's a 16710N (N=noir for black bezel insert), but a 2012 service warranty card shows it's a 16710T.

Can someone explain the meaning of the "T" suffix on the service warranty card?

TIA

Jmbarrack · 7 November 2021, 03:58 AM

I believe it denoted solid end links.

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referencetwenty8 · 7 November 2021, 04:04 AM

^ +1

padi56 · 7 November 2021, 04:17 AM

All the T means non lug hold case nothing more.

Stan Cooper · 7 November 2021, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmbarrack

I believe it denoted solid end links.

Quote:

Originally Posted by referencetwenty8

^ +1

Thanks, Gents!

My bracelet does have solid end links. Mystery solved!

Tools · 7 November 2021, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan Cooper

Thanks, Gents!

My bracelet does have solid end links. Mystery solved!

No, it does not mean solid end links.

It means that the watch case lugs do not have through-holes or pierced lugs. A non-through hole case can still have SEL's.

All models that originally had through holes, then the case was changed to have non-holes lugs that we see on all watches today, were stamped with a T so that the correct bracelet spring-bars could be properly ordered/installed.

When those models were updated to another number, the T was dropped. As an example, all 16610 cases with non-thru lug holes have the T, while the later 116610 do not.

kegan · 7 November 2021, 05:43 AM

I’m confused. Shouldn’t a P sold in 2001 have lug holes?

Jmbarrack · 7 November 2021, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kegan

I’m confused. Shouldn’t a P sold in 2001 have lug holes?

I am too. Because I had a P serial from 2000 which had a holes case. Which is why I always through the T was for the SEL.

But Tools is usually spot on with his info.

Stan, does your 16710 have a hole case?

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Stan Cooper · 7 November 2021, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmbarrack

I am too. Because I had a P serial from 2000 which had a holes case. Which is why I always through the T was for the SEL.

But Tools is usually spot on with his info.

Stan, does your 16710 have a hole case?

Yes. My P-serial 16710N sold in 2001 has lug holes, but the service warranty card says 16710T.

MrMercedes · 7 November 2021, 06:45 AM

Don´t worry. Just a mistake on the warranty card.

JonaG · 7 November 2021, 09:07 AM

Yeah, my 2007 16710 came back from RSC with the T and obviously is a no holes case.

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7 November 2021, 03:55 AM	#1
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7 November 2021, 03:58 AM	#2
Jmbarrack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: United States Watch: Ever changing! Posts: 1,150	I believe it denoted solid end links. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 November 2021, 04:04 AM	#3
referencetwenty8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Stanton, CA Watch: 18238 Posts: 33	^ +1

7 November 2021, 05:43 AM	#7
kegan "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 604	I’m confused. Shouldn’t a P sold in 2001 have lug holes?

7 November 2021, 06:45 AM	#10
MrMercedes "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Real Name: David Location: here and there Watch: too many! Posts: 3,584	Don´t worry. Just a mistake on the warranty card.

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