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pierson · 3 December 2021, 08:38 AM

Guys, I'm NOT an AP expert (much more used to Rolex), but figured you all might be able to help. My brother is looking at this watch and something feels off. The "CT" in the bottom dial? Can anyone add some color/thoughts? Much appreciated.

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pierson · 3 December 2021, 08:47 AM

Photos

Potawatomi · 3 December 2021, 09:32 AM

Which dealer are you using ? Buy the dealer not the watch. What's with the Date window off centered ? Edit: that looks terrible

VogelPhoenix · 3 December 2021, 09:49 AM

Well, what are the chances that a supposed $25k+ watch with a crummy sticker covering the most interesting part of the movement is legit? I have not seen sub-dial graphics like these - would be helpful to know which model this is supposed to be.

pierson · 3 December 2021, 09:59 AM

Here’s a better version of the movement

J.T. · 3 December 2021, 11:24 AM

Highly suspect in my opinion. Need more pics

Pw92676 · 3 December 2021, 12:26 PM

I’m not an expert either but I’d advise your brother to stay away. I’d advise my brother to buy, buy, buy as he is a scumbag who loves fakes

pierson · 3 December 2021, 01:23 PM

Thanks guys! I agree.

NotRichardMille · 5 December 2021, 03:20 AM

Why does it say FL on the six o clock sub dial?

Calinewport · 5 December 2021, 04:23 AM

Made in Florida

TunaTuna · 6 December 2021, 02:05 AM

This is the finest in chinese watchmaking. I would imagine the asking price would make this obvious to even the newbie

sokoloka · 6 December 2021, 02:53 AM

Even before getting to the question of real or not - I wouldn't touch a piece where the caseback screws are that chewed up. Who knows WTF has gone on inside that thing.

AperolSpritz · 6 December 2021, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokoloka

Even before getting to the question of real or not - I wouldn't touch a piece where the caseback screws are that chewed up. Who knows WTF has gone on inside that thing.

amen

Johnnie Peh · 6 December 2021, 11:14 AM

It's Knock off piece

3 December 2021, 08:38 AM	#1
pierson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 403	Legit Royal Oak Offshore? Guys, I'm NOT an AP expert (much more used to Rolex), but figured you all might be able to help. My brother is looking at this watch and something feels off. The "CT" in the bottom dial? Can anyone add some color/thoughts? Much appreciated. (having issue uploading photos - one second)

3 December 2021, 08:47 AM	#2
pierson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 403	Photos Attached Images

3 December 2021, 09:59 AM	#5
pierson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 403	Here’s a better version of the movement Attached Images

5 December 2021, 03:20 AM	#9
NotRichardMille "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Amsterdam Watch: AP Posts: 66	Why does it say FL on the six o clock sub dial? __________________ Audemars Pigeut Collection: 44MM Forged Carbon, 44MM Byblos limited edition, 42MM Rose Gold Rubberclad, The Brick , 15400ST , 15400OR Others: Franck Muller Vanguard(s)

6 December 2021, 02:53 AM	#12
sokoloka "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Eric Location: San Diego Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 1,547	Even before getting to the question of real or not - I wouldn't touch a piece where the caseback screws are that chewed up. Who knows WTF has gone on inside that thing. __________________ Instagram: @rough.af

3 December 2021, 09:32 AM	#3
Potawatomi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 939	Which dealer are you using ? Buy the dealer not the watch. What's with the Date window off centered ? Edit: that looks terrible

3 December 2021, 09:49 AM	#4
VogelPhoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Taiwan Posts: 3,898	Well, what are the chances that a supposed $25k+ watch with a crummy sticker covering the most interesting part of the movement is legit? I have not seen sub-dial graphics like these - would be helpful to know which model this is supposed to be.

3 December 2021, 11:24 AM	#6
J.T. "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: USA Posts: 326	Highly suspect in my opinion. Need more pics

3 December 2021, 12:26 PM	#7
Pw92676 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 6,374	I’m not an expert either but I’d advise your brother to stay away. I’d advise my brother to buy, buy, buy as he is a scumbag who loves fakes

3 December 2021, 01:23 PM	#8
pierson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Novato, CA Posts: 403	Thanks guys! I agree.

5 December 2021, 04:23 AM	#10
Calinewport "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: ConUS Posts: 33	Made in Florida

6 December 2021, 02:05 AM	#11
TunaTuna "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Merica Posts: 1,382	This is the finest in chinese watchmaking. I would imagine the asking price would make this obvious to even the newbie

6 December 2021, 11:14 AM	#14
Johnnie Peh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Singapore Watch: 44 SS 44 RG. Posts: 117	It's Knock off piece

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