Rolex GMT Master 1675 MK1 Long E Dial

[4rnold]

i would pass, there are enough gmt's out there

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

i would pass, there are enough gmt's out there

yep, too many issues.
Still considering this one, though it is too pricey given the later insert.
Another with the annoying light box photos.

[4rnold]

Imho, I would wait for one with an original insert. Because it's part of the charm. It really defines the way the watch looks. I really like the faded colors.
But that is a personal choice.
here's mine

[springer]

Did I miss the class on not to use a light box for photos?

Seriously, most sellers use a light box. The problem is not the use of a light box but not knowing the proper use of your camera while using a light box. It's a art form to understand and practice the finer points of taking a photo to obtain the proper contrast and also the use of white, black or silver reflective cards to control lighting reflections and contrast.

The GMT 1675 mentioned here has way too much contrast.

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

Imho, I would wait for one with an original insert. Because it's part of the charm. It really defines the way the watch looks. I really like the faded colors.
But that is a personal choice.
here's mine

That’s a beauty. I agree, an original insert makes it a better looking and more collectible watch.
My thinking is to find a watch with a good case and dial, and if I need to, get the correct insert later. There are a lot of them for sale usually.

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

yep, too many issues.
Still considering this one, though it is too pricey given the later insert.
Another with the annoying light box photos.

That’s not a service dial also???

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

That’s not a service dial also???

edit
I think it's a very white MK 5a.

[4rnold]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

That’s a beauty. I agree, an original insert makes it a better looking and more collectible watch.
My thinking is to find a watch with a good case and dial, and if I need to, get the correct insert later. There are a lot of them for sale usually.

Yes, that is possible. Initially I wanted to do they same as yourself. In the end I waited and my 'dream' watch passed by. I would advice you to wait, not because your idea is bad but the chase is better than the catch

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

Yes, that is possible. Initially I wanted to do they same as yourself. In the end I waited and my 'dream' watch passed by. I would advice you to wait, not because your idea is bad but the chase is better than the catch

Did prices skyrocket while you were waiting to find the right one?

[4rnold]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

Did prices skyrocket while you were waiting to find the right one?

no, not at all

The price for a stainless 'modern' sub and daytona did skyrocket in the meantime

but for vintage pieces like the 1675, the price did creep up a little bit, but not at the same level

I did not wait years tough, maybe around 10-12 months

I must say that at the shop I was looking a at,there came gmt's available on a regular base, almost every week a new one

It seems to be less nowadays, true

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

no, not at all

The price for a stainless 'modern' sub and daytona did skyrocket in the meantime

but for vintage pieces like the 1675, the price did creep up a little bit, but not at the same level

I did not wait years tough, maybe around 10-12 months

I must say that at the shop I was looking a at,there came gmt's available on a regular base, almost every week a new one

It seems to be less nowadays, true

It seemed to me that gmt's went up just as much in the past 2-3 years.
I waited, but I didn't think a decent one would increase to 20k.
And yeah, a lot of them have been scooped up and aren't for sale.
There's lots of junk out there with big price tags.

[4rnold]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

It seemed to me that gmt's went up just as much in the past 2-3 years.
I waited, but I didn't think a decent one would increase to 20k.
And yeah, a lot of them have been scooped up and aren't for sale.
There's lots of junk out there with big price tags.

Yes they sure would, but I don't think they will very soon.

Ok, you don't have to wait 5 years, but if you give yourself 1 year, I'm sure you will find something and the price will not double.

Look at this one: http://www.exoticwatches.net/all-wat...ilee-bracelet/

price: 167OO USD

This one, 2-3 years ago it would maybe be 14700 USD

But imho, the price of a simple 16800 Sub matte dial doubled in price in the same time.

I have an explorer 2 just like this one, also full set:

https://www.worldoftime.de/Watches/rolex/explorer-31965 (14470 USD)

I bought it 3-4 years ago for 6700 USD, now it's around 14000 USD)

I did not see the same rise in price for a vintage gmt

My prediction is that prices will rise further but not at the rate at wich you should start to panic. If you want a Daytona, then you should panic.

I mean, concerning a gmt, if you find 'your' watch, don't hesitate to buy, but don't rush things either

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

Yes they sure would, but I don't think they will very soon.

Ok, you don't have to wait 5 years, but if you give yourself 1 year, I'm sure you will find something and the price will not double.

Look at this one: http://www.exoticwatches.net/all-wat...ilee-bracelet/

price: 167OO USD

This one, 2-3 years ago it would maybe be 14700 USD

But imho, the price of a simple 16800 Sub matte dial doubled in price in the same time.

I have an explorer 2 just like this one, also full set:

https://www.worldoftime.de/Watches/rolex/explorer-31965 (14470 USD)

I bought it 3-4 years ago for 6700 USD, now it's around 14000 USD)

I did not see the same rise in price for a vintage gmt

My prediction is that prices will rise further but not at the rate at wich you should start to panic. If you want a Daytona, then you should panic.

I mean, concerning a gmt, if you find 'your' watch, don't hesitate to buy, but don't rush things either

Respectfully, that case is over polished and has a personal engraving. It would have sold for about 10k two years ago, and it is now at 17k. I wouldn't have bought it at either time (well I would have if I had known it would almost double, lol).
It seems they all have major flaws, or cost 20k minimum.

[4rnold]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

Respectfully, that case is over polished and has a personal engraving. It would have sold for about 10k two years ago, and it is now at 17k. I wouldn't have bought it at either time (well I would have if I had known it would almost double, lol).
It seems they all have major flaws, or cost 20k minimum.

Ok, the personal engraving is a shame, and is surely has been polished,
but the lugs and the crown guards are still strong imho, it is an original 50 year old watch? I think it is amazingly beautifull.

I mean, this watch is really a good watch, and completely wearable, I you should purchase this watch and wear it 15 years, it's worth its price.

Ok, if you want a perfect watch wich is really ''collectible'', then you need to pay up.

none of my watches are perfect, but completely wearable, and they dont lose their value. That's more than enough for me

[4rnold]

but maybe we are in the wrong thread to discuss this

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

Ok, the personal engraving is a shame, and is surely has been polished,
but the lugs and the crown guards are still strong imho, it is an original 50 year old watch? I think it is amazingly beautifull.

I mean, this watch is really a good watch, and completely wearable, I you should purchase this watch and wear it 15 years, it's worth its price.

Ok, if you want a perfect watch wich is really ''collectible'', then you need to pay up.

none of my watches are perfect, but completely wearable, and they dont lose their value. That's more than enough for me

Collectable GMT, that ship has sailed, except for the money is no object crowd. Maybe it's just me, but if you're paying 30k for a watch right now, you have money to burn.
There are those that say you can still find them at flea markets or estate sales, but then those same people end up paying double from a dealer most times.

Thanks for finding that one, maybe I cannot do better at 17k these days.

[4rnold]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

Collectable GMT, that ship has sailed, except for the money is no object crowd. Maybe it's just me, but if you're paying 30k for a watch right now, you have money to burn.
There are those that say you can still find them at flea markets or estate sales, but then those same people end up paying double from a dealer most times.

Thanks for finding that one, maybe I cannot do better at 17k these days.

Flea markets, estate sales, auctions,... you are right, bargains don't exist anymore, since the internet. Everyone knows the price these days.

I allways bought from dealers, I hardly lost money on a watch. My secret is time. I buy watches, and art, and just for 1 reason, I like what I buy, it gives me a lot of pleasure.
So If tomorrow the price crashes, it's not a pleasant thing. But, I'll still enjoy what I have. My most beloved watch is a 5513, arguably overpolished, faded insert, a little damaged. But what a sight. It gives me pleasure everytime I look at it or hold it in my hand. It's not perfect, but it's real, it has a story, it's original. I prefer this over an untouched, NOS watch. I would be afraid to wear it.

The one I said, from exotic watches, I would dare to buy it, why? You can feel it's authentic, it puts a smile on my face when I look at it.

I would sure make an offer lower than the asking price. (I don't have any affiliation with the seller, I just know he is thrustworthy)

But, like I said, If you buy this watch and you wear it for over 20 years, and you enjoy it, it's money well spent imho.

And in 20 years, when you pass it on to your son or daughter, or you sell it, it will be worth more then what you payed for. So good deal right?

cheers mate hope you find the watch that puts a smile on your face

[Nicus]

So many answers already given so, what i can say not yet answered is,
about the bezel (which is on a 1675 particuraly important), if you wanna know if its genuine or serviced, you have to put it off and look inside. If its red its from the epoc and if its blue its late one.
An early mid 70s date wheel should propose a flat 3 and open 6 & 9.
Let me know if i can help