Aventi

[nycfyrman]

Saw Roman interview these guys and have been checking it out. I watched an IG live today and the way they skirted around my questions has me skeptical. Two simple questions that went unanswered, who makes the movement and how do you justify going from a 2K price point to a 13k price point, with no use of precious metals. What does everyone thing?

[Bigdaddy38]

Originally Posted by nycfyrman

Saw Roman interview these guys and have been checking it out. I watched an IG live today and the way they skirted around my questions has me skeptical. Two simple questions that went unanswered, who makes the movement and how do you justify going from a 2K price point to a 13k price point, with no use of precious metals. What does everyone thing?

Do you have a link to the recording of the interview? I would imagine a Swiss made Tourbillon raiders the price pretty substantially, as well as the sapphire skull work. Would be interested to see the response to the questions though.


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[ajw45]

I think the watches are crap and the founders are a bunch of sleazeballs. They are like mvmt but worse. They talk about transparency and use buzzwords like iso certified factories and pay for quality checks from 3rd parties which means nothing for the quality of the watch, only how consistently crappy it is, all while using a recased Chinese tourbillon watch that you can buy on Alibaba for $200. The say they don't buy media, but they do, the watches, the founders, it's all garbage.

[nycfyrman]

I’m unable to post the link. But it’s in their gallery on Instagram. My theory is a fool and his money are soon parted. They saw my questions and became agitated when I asked why or how they came to their price point which I think for a watch is a premium price beginning at 13k. No in-house movement, no actual location to see and feel the product. And then they were condescending as if well if you aren’t a believer we don’t want you as a customer. Like just explain your process and who makes the movement. Lots of smoke and mirrors. I’m from NY I can smell an invicta scam a mile away!

[Bigdaddy38]

Originally Posted by ajw45

I think the watches are crap and the founders are a bunch of sleazeballs. They are like mvmt but worse. They talk about transparency and use buzzwords like iso certified factories and pay for quality checks from 3rd parties which means nothing for the quality of the watch, only how consistently crappy it is, all while using a recased Chinese tourbillon watch that you can buy on Alibaba for $200. The say they don't buy media, but they do, the watches, the founders, it's all garbage.

So this latest iteration is claiming complete Swiss made tourbillon, no longer using any of the past parts of the A-10 and A-11. Not sure if that plays a major difference


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[ajw45]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy38

So this latest iteration is claiming complete Swiss made tourbillon, no longer using any of the past parts of the A-10 and A-11. Not sure if that plays a major difference


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Same founders means same garbage, just a different day and new marketing. Believe/buy at your own risk. Chinese companies can make amazing things, Swiss companies can make crap, don't be blinded by buzz words, the only reason they switched is because the Chinese are at least transparent that their stuff is built to a price vs the swiss watch industry being opaque so you don't even know who made what let alone for how much.