Dealer “requirements”

[Benzsiam]

Originally Posted by GONZO2LR

why are all of you scared to tell an AD anything...their not your momy and daddy...stop being so scared to tell them anything...your the customer...so many of you all scared little b's....

Nobody is scared to tell AD anything. Both sides have the right to say what they think.

[Jagamov]

Originally Posted by Benzsiam

Yes, I just try to tell you that I knew ahead of time that you will get that watch from your AD but probably that watch will be the last one that you will get it from them.

Well, thanks for saying it a 3rd time. This is very helpful.

[startrolexendrolex]

Originally Posted by Jagamov

Just got a call from my AD.



I have been patiently waiting for a new No Date Submariner. He actually offered me a Date model about 2 months ago, but I passed as the no date model is my favorite (I previously bought a Tudor BB 58 from him).



So today he calls me (the first time he’s ever called) and was preparing for models coming in this week and wanted to prepare me and remind me if I needed anything for Mother’s Day…LOL



So he says they are REALLY wanting me to pay with a wire transfer or a cashier’s check due to the CC fee’s. Of course he says it’s not required, but they would very much prefer I do it that way. I told him, no, that I pay for stuff with a particular CC and I like the protection it affords me. Not paying a retail establishment with the equivalent of 10k in cash.



He understood, and I’m pretty sure that dropped me down the list again. Just getting tired of playing games just to buy a watch…it’s almost comical.



So we shall see.

Let me guess, are you in Dallas and is this AD in a mall?

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[dtwer]

You make me lol, OP. The AD is literally prioritizing you ahead of many others for something worth thousands more in an open market and trusting that you won't flip it, yet you are concerned about some credit card points and protection?

You are making a mountain out of a molehill; the misgiving you have about the AD is all in your imagination. Through your description, I find the AD very transparent and upfront. If that was my AD I would have paid in whichever form they suggest and prefer; that's what people do in a productive business relationship - reciprocity.

[ChrisLB1]

Originally Posted by dtwer

You make me lol, OP. The AD is literally prioritizing you ahead of many others for something worth thousands more in an open market and trusting that you won't flip it, yet you are concerned about some credit card points and protection?

You are making a mountain out of a molehill; the misgiving you have about the AD is all in your imagination. Through your description, I find the AD very transparent and upfront. If that was my AD I would have paid in whichever form they suggest and prefer; that's what people do in a productive business relationship - reciprocity.

agreed

[bestbestquality]

Originally Posted by dtwer

You make me lol, OP. The AD is literally prioritizing you ahead of many others for something worth thousands more in an open market and trusting that you won't flip it, yet you are concerned about some credit card points and protection?

You are making a mountain out of a molehill; the misgiving you have about the AD is all in your imagination. Through your description, I find the AD very transparent and upfront. If that was my AD I would have paid in whichever form they suggest and prefer; that's what people do in a productive business relationship - reciprocity.

LMAO are we still arguing about this? The AD isn't a struggling business. It's not like they can't stand to pay the CC fees. That's something the AD agreed to do with the credit card companies. What's with groveling to ADs? OP has every right to pay how he feels comfortable paying and even clearly stated he would pass on it. Reciprocity?! Ya'll aren't friends. It's an exchange of goods for money. This isn't some buddy-buddy business transaction that benefits both parties.

[Jagamov]

Originally Posted by bestbestquality

LMAO are we still arguing about this? The AD isn't a struggling business. It's not like they can't stand to pay the CC fees. That's something the AD agreed to do with the credit card companies. What's with groveling to ADs? OP has every right to pay how he feels comfortable paying and even clearly stated he would pass on it. Reciprocity?! Ya'll aren't friends. It's an exchange of goods for money. This isn't some buddy-buddy business transaction that benefits both parties.

LOL... appreciate it. This has to be my most successful post ever...

The AD frustration runs deep.

[awboxes]

I don't get your logic. If the dealer contacted you saying he has new inventory coming in and be ready, it sounds that you've "got the call" and the SA is giving you time to prepare the payment. If you really want the watch, get it, don't blame anyone but yourself if you are at the top of the list and by your own doing, you are pushed down.

[awboxes]

Perfectly said

[awboxes]

Originally Posted by dtwer

You make me lol, OP. The AD is literally prioritizing you ahead of many others for something worth thousands more in an open market and trusting that you won't flip it, yet you are concerned about some credit card points and protection?

You are making a mountain out of a molehill; the misgiving you have about the AD is all in your imagination. Through your description, I find the AD very transparent and upfront. If that was my AD I would have paid in whichever form they suggest and prefer; that's what people do in a productive business relationship - reciprocity.

Perfectly said.

[ArtNouveau]

Gosh! Please read the threads before commenting people! The OP got his watch paying by credit card a day or so later and all is right with the world. Yet people are still coming here to lambast his stance and tell him he has burned his bridges with the nice dealer. Others guessing where he is while that has also been established in earlier posts.
If I care enough to post in a thread I do the courtesy of reading the whole thread so I am up to speed on what’s happened so far.
Congrats OP….again.

[2nastie]

LOL... also can't believe this thread is still going on.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but never understood some people in general with the "the customer is always right" and "I'm spending my hard earned money therefore, I expect this and that" mentality.

People need a wake up call. Other than extreme circumstances with actual negative attitude, etc given to customers or vice-versa, the AD or any business for that matter can accept whatever payment they please whether it's cash or electronic payment.

If you don't like it, don't shop there. Simple. I doubt the OP's actual SA was giving him any attitude. Probably frustrating having them play the game or annoying they decided to ask, but it's what the current market environment is today.

Good to hear the OP ended up wining the battle, but I do get both sides of the coin.

[rick lee]

CC merchant fees are built into the price everyone pays, regardless of payment method UNLESS they're giving you a discount for paying by cash/wire. So you might as well get the points and purchase protection if the price is the same. Last time I bought from a grey seller via wire, I think my bank charged me $25 or $35 for the transaction. So I'd always rather pay by CC when possible.

[GONZO2LR]

Originally Posted by dwaine99

That's a classy move! Bet that would move you to the top of the preferred customer list too!

How cares about class, an AD that doesnt treat customers with respect, are they being classy???? there are other AD's ( I know a few in my city ) they are great people, kind and respectful...we laugh and they let me try on what i see.... i just hate snobby salespeople...

[GONZO2LR]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

Gosh! Please read the threads before commenting people! The OP got his watch paying by credit card a day or so later and all is right with the world. Yet people are still coming here to lambast his stance and tell him he has burned his bridges with the nice dealer. Others guessing where he is while that has also been established in earlier posts.
If I care enough to post in a thread I do the courtesy of reading the whole thread so I am up to speed on what’s happened so far.
Congrats OP….again.

some of us are sandblasting the comments made by others and commenting back...so dont keep you panties in a twist! Its all in fun...

[TswaneNguni]

The CC Sub Tale is getting a bit stale .

Dont you have EFT (electronic fund transfer ) in the USA ?

I sit in the comfort of my home and pay the AD via EFT

Bankwiring fees of 25-35$ ? Wiring sounds so old fashioned .
The bank sends the AD a telegram and say the funds are on its way via coach and horses ?
Do you have to go into the bank ?
..and then the teller can decline because the buyer buys a Submarine(r) ?

[GONZO2LR]

Originally Posted by rick lee

CC merchant fees are built into the price everyone pays, regardless of payment method UNLESS they're giving you a discount for paying by cash/wire. So you might as well get the points and purchase protection if the price is the same. Last time I bought from a grey seller via wire, I think my bank charged me $25 or $35 for the transaction. So I'd always rather pay by CC when possible.

you are so right...the selling merchant whether its a store or person or online business adds this, only they want to make more money off the sale and they want YOU, the customer pay that fee....

[GONZO2LR]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

“…your the customer and you are doing them a favor buying products from them”. Sounds like egotism/sense of superiority to me. I would encourage anybody with this attitude that wishes to engage my professional services to reconsider their opinion or take their business elsewhere. If I have what you want, and you have what I want then nobody is doing anybody a favour.

Everybody is a customer somewhere, so we can’t all be kings. Courtesy is what both sides of the table are entitled to.


“So your tell me if you walked in to any other business establishment and they treated you like a second class citizen...would you tolerate their behavior?” No, I don’t tolerate being spoken to like a second class citizen by anybody; business, stranger or customer. I don’t condone nor am I advocating condescension.

i agree......

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by Jagamov

I know when typing its hard to get across attitude, so let me try.

I understand the want for them to not pay fees. No biggie.

I also am not in a hurry and recognize it’s just a watch. I’m willing to keep waiting.

My point really is that it’s just kinda humorous and ultimately ridiculous that there are such conditions that I have to meet to buy a watch. It’s like they are doing me a favor and I need to bend to them. They keep coming up with ways to make it harder to get one.

I’m local, I’m a previous customer. I’m not a flipper. Make me want to come back, give me a good experience. Quit trying to turn me off the brand completely.

I think you've assessed the situation correctly. I have an AD that I frequent. They recently got me a GMT-Master II with a Pepsi bezel on Oyster with only a three day "wait." My salesman knew it was coming in and remembered all the miscellaneous business I have done with them (jewelry purchases, bought several IWCs over the years, two Rolex watches over a 4-5 year period). I'm positive I jumped the line since I never ask for anything. Even though the market has changed drastically, my AD never once asked me to wire money or ever questioned my method of payment. They prefer when I pay them with a check, but they could care less. I bought my wife's Datejust that I ordered for her with a card among other things.

I get "why" they want to avoid fees, I just think it's tacky that this is the state of affairs and that how you decide to pay would determine if you get a reference or not.

[amh]

Fact is that ADs can be douches while demand is strong:
- Buy jewelry!
- Buy Omegas that you don't want!
- Pay with a wire! If you want the watch that is....

Buyers are pushy when demand is soft:
- Can I get a 10% discount? So yes - now how about 15% or I walk?
- Will you throw in a free watch winder?
- Do you have any Rolex pens, umbrellas?

It goes both ways

[jordanfsl]

My local dealer requires personal check or a wire for Rolex sports models. Why? Because they have a limited amount they get in, and a wait list. So why not maximize that last couple percent from their perspective? I’d love the CC points, but I would much prefer getting a phone call when a piece I want comes into stock.

No one is forcing you to buy a luxury watch, this isn’t food and shelter. Stop worrying about the little stuff in life and enjoy your watch.