PSA: If you want Rolex, don't settle for anything else

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by s0leful0ne

Love the bracelet, would you mind sharing a link or name? I may get it for my speedy.


(back to topic) - I agree with OP - Don't buy anything else if you want a Rolex. Buy an Omega, Tudor, Cartier, whatever if that's what you want, but not if you think it's gonna scratch the Rolex itch.

You have a PM.

[asiparks]

Omega makes some dogs, Rolex makes some dogs.

If you like a watch, simply buy it, you don't need to go to such massive lengths to justify your reasoning to anyone else.

[amh]

Originally Posted by asiparks

Omega makes some dogs, Rolex makes some dogs.

If you like a watch, simply buy it, you don't need to go to such massive lengths to justify your reasoning to anyone else.

*Ahem*.... you know entire books have been written about Rolex?

https://mondanibooks.com/

[logo]

Originally Posted by amh

*Ahem*.... you know entire books have been written about Rolex?

https://mondanibooks.com/

Ah dang, I wish there was something similar for Omega.... too bad...

[Santiago32]

Agreed!

Low quality bracelet and poor water resistance are the main reasons I won’t buy an Omega Speedmaster.

[Daytona88]

I've actually experienced the reverse. Was pretty exclusively Rolex (and some Tudor) for many years. My unwillingness to pay over retail got me looking into other brands and my small collection has morphed into a more diverse group including Grand Seiko, Patek, Lange, Omega (and still some Rolex and Tudor, of course)! Now, when I am deciding what watch to wear, I look at more than dial color.

[jimcameron]

Enjoy.

[asiparks]

Originally Posted by amh

*Ahem*.... you know entire books have been written about Rolex?

https://mondanibooks.com/

Which has bearing on ....?

Not sure how the existence of reference books, or passionate fan tomes are somehow proof of brand A's superiority over Brand B, or invalidate anyone else's preference.

You like Rolex. Great, enjoy it. I enjoy mine too, along with my other watches that aren't Rolex...

[amh]

Originally Posted by asiparks

Omega makes some dogs, Rolex makes some dogs.

If you like a watch, simply buy it, you don't need to go to such massive lengths to justify your reasoning to anyone else.

Originally Posted by asiparks

Which has bearing on ....?

Not sure how the existence of reference books, or passionate fan tomes are somehow proof of brand A's superiority over Brand B, or invalidate anyone else's preference.

You like Rolex. Great, enjoy it. I enjoy mine too, along with my other watches that aren't Rolex...

It's a Rolex forum. Go post about that Panerai or Grand Seiko somewhere else if you want to sing their praises. This thread isn't bashing anyone else's taste.

[jamesbondOO7]

Rolex or nothing for me. I have an Omega Speedmaster somewhere deep in a drawer.

[cfree011]

The Fifty Fathoms is a way better diver than the submariner.

I mean all iterations and special editions are better than the submariner and sea dweller line.

I've owned the submariner twice and sea dweller 3 times and they just don't compare regarding fit, finish, movement, and quality.

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[RolexNewbie23]

This is exactly why I have waited years and years to get a Rolex. 2022 is finally the year! :)

[ColdWater]

Originally Posted by cdmorenot

Interesting thread.

I have the most sought after sport SS Rolex watches there are right now and they get absolutely no wrist time.

I bought a SMP 300 a year ago and a speedy and they’re my favorite watches ever.

After 5 or 6 years of switching Rolexes I settled on 3 safe queens and two phenomenal daily wearers.

To each their own!


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Same here. I wear a Hamilton Khaki at work and a Sinn 556i away from work.

The Rolexes come out on the weekends sometimes. I still add Rolex at MSRP to my watch collection for asset diversification, but seldom wear them because of the stigma of appearing wealthy.

It's useless to tell someone hell bent on buying a Rolex that anything else will do. If they have the means, Rolex is a no brainer at MSRP.

But if they're buying a status symbol I think they'll eventually come to the realization that no one except a few OCD dudes care about what watch you're wearing. Women certainly don't care.

Probably ten people in any town know the difference between a GMT II and Oyster Perpetual, they just know it's a Rolex, including 95% of people that wear Rolex. They don't know it took 12 months on a waiting list to get the GMT II.

Buy a big white dial watch or another bright color if being noticed is important. Don't worry about in house movements, or bezel click sound, or applied indices etc. Now I mainly buy watches that I like to look at.

[SchiftyDMD]

Originally Posted by 258Pearl

I have the blue Omega Seamaster 300M and the 2021 Submariner No Date.

TBH, I find myself wearing the Seamaster way more than the Rolex. I believe the glide lock on the Omega is easier to adjust than the Rolex. I never have to worry about banging or scratching it or being judged.

I would not wear a Rolex to a job interview or to negotiate buying a new car, but I would have no problem taking the Omega as it's not as widely recognized.

Who the heck is judging you for wearing a SS Sub - that’s a true level of ridiculousness I can’t comprehend


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[Lew Archer]

The PSA is not really about one brand vs. another, but about discovering what you want--really want--and not settling for something that ticks many boxes, but, for whatever, reason, isn't really want you want.

For example, I'd always wanted a Submariner.

Eventually I bought an Omega Seamaster, a fine watch I still have, 25 years later, and still enjoy. However, yes, I still wanted a Rolex. Since I already had a "dive" watch, I felt silly buying a Sub. So, my first Rolex was a GMT Master II, black and red bezel.

I had my Rolex...but...it...was...not...a...Submariner. Sure, I could change the bezel insert to all black, and at a distance it would like kind of like a Sub...but...

It wasn't a Sub. And, for whatever reason, I wanted a Submariner.

Eventually I bought a Submariner Date. I settled...because I actually preferred the Sub without a date. But, what the hell, I was ready to buy, they had that one in stock...and it's a great watch, and the date is useful....

But, everytime I'd see a Submariner without the date, its clean, pure lines beckoned me.

Well, eventually I bought one. And, all things considered, it's probably my favorite watch, if there is such a thing. I still have and enjoy that Seamaster, GMT and Sub Date...and, having embraced the idea of being a collector (a handy rationalization) I am glad to have them all.

My point is just that if there's a particular watch you want, not just brand, but model, not just model, but precise configuration, if that's what you want...you might as well get it. Maybe you'll acquire other pieces, or not, but you'll have the one that you really wanted.

The challenge, though, is knowing what you want, and, once you do, accepting that. Logic told me, "don't buy ANOTHER dive watch". In retrospect, to hell with logic. Buy with your heart, not your head.

That is the key.

[Jack T]

If this thread proves anything, it’s that Marketing works!

[AbeFroman]

I agree, Omega’s bracelets leave a lot to be desired. The lack of tampering and the old design on the SMP bracelet is what turns me away. Not to mention the significant and continuous updates that outdate your watch quickly.

Originally Posted by wclowe

I thought I’d share my experience flirting with buying an omega watch.

A few years ago I heard on the news that they were coming out with a new James Bond 007 special edition watch.

I immediately called the Omega boutique in Tysons and put down a deposit and thought that I was lucky to have been able to reserve one of the 700 that would be released.

Afterward I started doing some research and found that omega comes out with a special edition watch like every six months making this purchase seem like a mistake.

I asked them to refund my deposit and instead went to the Rolex AD a few weeks later. They just happened to have a two-tone Daytona with MOP dial sitting in the display case.

While I paid twice as much for the Daytona as I was going to pay for the omega I couldn’t be happier. In my mind I dodged a bullet - for me it’s not just about buying a watch that I like - I need to also feel like I’m getting good value for my money.

In my book that means Rolex over omega every day of the week…

Cheers!


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I had a very similar experience. Back during winter 2018, I was looking at picking up a second watch. I had my eyes on the SMP 300m diver Commander’s edition. I was about to pull the trigger at Omega’s london boutique off Bond St., but I decided to swing by the Rolex AD down the street for my brother in law. I ended up picking up a DJ41 instead and couldn’t be happier.

I dislike how Omega pumps out the 007 limited editions and the continuous updates. At least with Rolex it is incremental updates every so often so your watch isn’t rendered out of date shortly after purchasing.

I bought a Planet Ocean in Sept 2018 with the quarter orange bezel and was told Omega wouldn’t roll out another full orange bezel in this updated generation. The following March they introduced it at Basel. Made me so frustrated as that was the one I wanted originally. I also had significant service issues with it at the OSC and had to send it back SEVEN times. I ended up selling the dang thing taking a $4k bath. Don’t ever plan on owning another Omega product.

[csaltphoto]

Originally Posted by Lew Archer

The PSA is not really about one brand vs. another, but about discovering what you want--really want--and not settling for something that ticks many boxes, but, for whatever, reason, isn't really want you want.

For example, I'd always wanted a Submariner.

Eventually I bought an Omega Seamaster, a fine watch I still have, 25 years later, and still enjoy. However, yes, I still wanted a Rolex. Since I already had a "dive" watch, I felt silly buying a Sub. So, my first Rolex was a GMT Master II, black and red bezel.

I had my Rolex...but...it...was...not...a...Submariner. Sure, I could change the bezel insert to all black, and at a distance it would like kind of like a Sub...but...

It wasn't a Sub. And, for whatever reason, I wanted a Submariner.

Eventually I bought a Submariner Date. I settled...because I actually preferred the Sub without a date. But, what the hell, I was ready to buy, they had that one in stock...and it's a great watch, and the date is useful....

But, everytime I'd see a Submariner without the date, its clean, pure lines beckoned me.

Well, eventually I bought one. And, all things considered, it's probably my favorite watch, if there is such a thing. I still have and enjoy that Seamaster, GMT and Sub Date...and, having embraced the idea of being a collector (a handy rationalization) I am glad to have them all.

My point is just that if there's a particular watch you want, not just brand, but model, not just model, but precise configuration, if that's what you want...you might as well get it. Maybe you'll acquire other pieces, or not, but you'll have the one that you really wanted.

The challenge, though, is knowing what you want, and, once you do, accepting that. Logic told me, "don't buy ANOTHER dive watch". In retrospect, to hell with logic. Buy with your heart, not your head.

That is the key.

Exactly this. I always wanted a sub too. Like for 25 years. And the problem was when I was ready to buy was the beginning of Rolex end-of-times (~3.5 years ago). Was basically laughed out of an AD when I asked, "To see a few submariner models since I'm not sure exactly which one I want." You can imagine. Hmmm. Then looked at Omegas. Tudors. Oris, you name it. The "list". Discovered this place. The advice was the same then as it is now. Buy the watch you really want. So I did. 3 years later and I still enjoy wearing it every day.

[nickorette]

There is a lot to love with other brands, just need to be looking at them for the right reasons, and finding the timepieces that speak to you. The question isn't Rolex vs Omega, its Rolex + Omega + etc.

[Cauhauna]

Originally Posted by Lew Archer

The PSA is not really about one brand vs. another, but about discovering what you want--really want--and not settling for something that ticks many boxes, but, for whatever, reason, isn't really want you want.

For example, I'd always wanted a Submariner.

Eventually I bought an Omega Seamaster, a fine watch I still have, 25 years later, and still enjoy. However, yes, I still wanted a Rolex. Since I already had a "dive" watch, I felt silly buying a Sub. So, my first Rolex was a GMT Master II, black and red bezel.

I had my Rolex...but...it...was...not...a...Submariner. Sure, I could change the bezel insert to all black, and at a distance it would like kind of like a Sub...but...

It wasn't a Sub. And, for whatever reason, I wanted a Submariner.

Eventually I bought a Submariner Date. I settled...because I actually preferred the Sub without a date. But, what the hell, I was ready to buy, they had that one in stock...and it's a great watch, and the date is useful....

But, everytime I'd see a Submariner without the date, its clean, pure lines beckoned me.

Well, eventually I bought one. And, all things considered, it's probably my favorite watch, if there is such a thing. I still have and enjoy that Seamaster, GMT and Sub Date...and, having embraced the idea of being a collector (a handy rationalization) I am glad to have them all.

My point is just that if there's a particular watch you want, not just brand, but model, not just model, but precise configuration, if that's what you want...you might as well get it. Maybe you'll acquire other pieces, or not, but you'll have the one that you really wanted.

The challenge, though, is knowing what you want, and, once you do, accepting that. Logic told me, "don't buy ANOTHER dive watch". In retrospect, to hell with logic. Buy with your heart, not your head.

That is the key.

Yep.

I wanted a sub date, but My first watch was a Seamaster because I didn’t want to spend the money. I’ll never forget the disappointment I felt when I opened the box containing my Seamaster from Jomashop. The most impressive part of the seamaster was the presentation box. Terrible time keeping, lame blue dial, and a non in house movement (at the time) - it was no better than the $500 Tissot Seastar that it (temporarily) replaced. It took me four months to find a buyer for my omega. I still have every other watch I’ve ever bought.

10 months later I got a sub date.

To hell with omega

I hope to one day add a patek, AP, blancpain, JLC, and perhaps a Cartier