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B. Doggy · 13 June 2009, 03:10 AM

Which one would you choose if you could have just one of them?

Keep in mind that the 190 is discontinued and has a total production run of 2,050.

B. Doggy · 13 June 2009, 03:11 AM

Oh, and it would be the 233 with the "Dot."

Launch Mini · 13 June 2009, 03:14 AM

I have both & I prefer the 190.
Nice & clean, THere is actually something to see in the back ( vs the 233).
Can be dressy or casual.
Fits under most of my long sleeve shirts.
I prefer rads.
Do like the 233, but have NEVER used the GMT function. Quick change strap is nice.

I have been thinking of selling some of my collection. SO I have pondered this too.
I think I would keep my 190.
I prefer this over my 232 also.

rotan · 13 June 2009, 03:23 AM

I love both watches. 190 for its limited production and gold hands, 233 for just about everything! Given a choice again I will still go for the 233. Having said that, 190 is not far from my radar scope too...

So many nice watches, so little money...

morgman · 13 June 2009, 04:41 AM

I prefer the 233 with the older "dot" too.
The dial is very interesting, as are the domed crystal & 1950's case.
(I'm not a radiomir guy yet though)

argee1977 · 13 June 2009, 04:43 AM

233, next question

chu88y · 13 June 2009, 04:52 AM

luminor for me too

JF23 · 13 June 2009, 05:14 AM

Another Luminor fan here. 233 is the cat's meow...

Nica64 · 13 June 2009, 08:38 AM

X3 another Luminor fan here

233 for me!!

Trurolexer · 13 June 2009, 11:30 AM

Hard to say...But I choose for 233 with dot too. Good luck whatever you choose in the end, Bro...

Randy · 13 June 2009, 12:24 PM

233 all the way! More versatlity IMO. Good luck with your decision.

B. Doggy · 13 June 2009, 12:32 PM

Maybe I'll just get both and call it good with Panerai. There are other Rolex I lust for as well....

hflee55 · 13 June 2009, 01:32 PM

233 all the way!

TswaneNguni · 13 June 2009, 02:42 PM

Hmmmmm ....

190 : Limited,through being discontinued and highly collectible.Comes from an era where few models were manufactured with the JLC movements.The 242 also an example.The 190 has the JLC 8 day manual wind movement.Heavy and thickish cased 45mm Radiomir.

233 : Popular watch,nicely cased 1950s Luminor,although I still prefer the "normal" Luminor case,in 44mm."In-house movement" and if the dotted version can be found,thats the one I would go for.

Great choices,but I would give the edge to the 190.

The alternatives >>>> Have to consider the following IMO :

232 and 249
127 ( Nothing beats the 47mm 1950s cased Luminors !!

,I wish I had one.... and if I can find one locally,I would give it VERY serious consideration

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Good luck,cant go wrong with either the 190 or 233.

mfer · 14 June 2009, 01:06 AM

190 screams heritage.

233 new and cool.

190 for me. Rolex has Panerai beat in the GMT dept (for me guys, not you!)

B. Doggy · 14 June 2009, 02:03 AM

Thanks for all the thoughts guys. I do think I'll keep the 190, but I wanted to know everyones thoughts here. I plan on having both, but it's tough holding out when I can go pick up a 112 anytime. I just want the 233 to me my Luminor!

tech_controller · 14 June 2009, 08:33 AM

233 preferred here...but the 190 isn't too far behind. I'd love to add the 190 since I already have a 233.

brainbizz · 14 June 2009, 08:54 AM

The 190 just does not do it for me. I purchased the 268 instead. IMHO the 233 dot is the perfect luminor. I actually typically prefer rads but the nod goes to 233.

GBJIV · 14 June 2009, 11:05 AM

233 for me...

Trurolexer · 14 June 2009, 04:03 PM

If you can buy 233 without flip your 190, that's good for you.

louie · 14 June 2009, 04:22 PM

remember the 233 is still on going production. For collectivity and investment,i say 190.

Zed · 14 June 2009, 05:41 PM

i would keep the 190 since it is so collectable.. it is also cool, 8 days with the indication at the back... i think it is (for me) the most desirable Radiomir,,,
you can always satisfy your hunger with a 233 (am/pm) in years to come.. but once you let go of the 190.. its gone..

argee1977 · 14 June 2009, 05:46 PM

I'm not too sure the 190 is collectable, that's the problem with Panerai just now, every year another couple of 'collectable' models come out and dilute the whole range.

TswaneNguni · 14 June 2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

I'm not too sure the 190 is collectable, that's the problem with Panerai just now, every year another couple of 'collectable' models come out and dilute the whole range.

127/217/232/249/203/21 et al. dont seem diluted to me.

argee1977 · 14 June 2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

127/217/232/249/203/21 et al. dont seem diluted to me.

You're forgetting about the models with less than 2000 units over the last 10 years, you've mentioned a few, but there reaches a point where there are just too many 'limited' number models, look at Audemars Piguet with the Offshore, every month they seem to come up with a new model and it's diluted the appeal.

TswaneNguni · 15 June 2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by argee1977

You're forgetting about the models with less than 2000 units over the last 10 years, you've mentioned a few, but there reaches a point where there are just too many 'limited' number models, look at Audemars Piguet with the Offshore, every month they seem to come up with a new model and it's diluted the appeal.

Try finding a limited edition from the AD !!

Its not like they are sitting on the shelves collecting dust !!

If I could find a 127 from the AD,I would be EXTREMELY happy !!

rotan · 15 June 2009, 12:41 AM

I would say 233 might just maintain its value or even be pricier in the future cos Panerai is phasing out the "dot" for 233. So I say grab the "dot" 233 now!

Trurolexer · 15 June 2009, 12:54 AM

190 is very stable in value. Around 9k-10k.

argee1977 · 15 June 2009, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

190 is very stable in value. Around 9k-10k.

They've dipped a little below that for sale prices on paneristi and other places, but so has nearly every other watch recently. I think they'll hold their value well, but they won't be the next collectable, there are just too many of those and as i said earlier, Panerai seem to release 2 or 3 'collectables' every year, this year we've got the 28, then there's the 341, and some of the others might do the same like the PVD'd 212.

13 June 2009, 03:10 AM	#1
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	190 or 233? Which one would you choose if you could have just one of them? Keep in mind that the 190 is discontinued and has a total production run of 2,050. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

13 June 2009, 03:11 AM	#2
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Oh, and it would be the 233 with the "Dot." __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

13 June 2009, 03:14 AM	#3
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,240	I have both & I prefer the 190. Nice & clean, THere is actually something to see in the back ( vs the 233). Can be dressy or casual. Fits under most of my long sleeve shirts. I prefer rads. Do like the 233, but have NEVER used the GMT function. Quick change strap is nice. I have been thinking of selling some of my collection. SO I have pondered this too. I think I would keep my 190. I prefer this over my 232 also. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

13 June 2009, 03:23 AM	#4
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	I love both watches. 190 for its limited production and gold hands, 233 for just about everything! Given a choice again I will still go for the 233. Having said that, 190 is not far from my radar scope too... So many nice watches, so little money... __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

13 June 2009, 04:43 AM	#6
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	233, next question __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

13 June 2009, 04:41 AM	#5
morgman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 475	I prefer the 233 with the older "dot" too. The dial is very interesting, as are the domed crystal & 1950's case. (I'm not a radiomir guy yet though)

13 June 2009, 04:52 AM	#7
chu88y Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: LONDON Watch: SDDS Posts: 660	luminor for me too

13 June 2009, 05:14 AM	#8
JF23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 1,898	Another Luminor fan here. 233 is the cat's meow...

13 June 2009, 08:38 AM	#9
Nica64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,596	X3 another Luminor fan here 233 for me!! __________________ ______________________________ You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.

13 June 2009, 11:30 AM	#10
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Hard to say...But I choose for 233 with dot too. Good luck whatever you choose in the end, Bro...

13 June 2009, 12:24 PM	#11
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	233 all the way! More versatlity IMO. Good luck with your decision.

13 June 2009, 12:32 PM	#12
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Maybe I'll just get both and call it good with Panerai. There are other Rolex I lust for as well.... __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

13 June 2009, 01:32 PM	#13
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	233 all the way!

13 June 2009, 02:42 PM	#14
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Hmmmmm .... 190 : Limited,through being discontinued and highly collectible.Comes from an era where few models were manufactured with the JLC movements.The 242 also an example.The 190 has the JLC 8 day manual wind movement.Heavy and thickish cased 45mm Radiomir. 233 : Popular watch,nicely cased 1950s Luminor,although I still prefer the "normal" Luminor case,in 44mm."In-house movement" and if the dotted version can be found,thats the one I would go for. Great choices,but I would give the edge to the 190. The alternatives >>>> Have to consider the following IMO : 232 and 249 127 ( Nothing beats the 47mm 1950s cased Luminors !! ,I wish I had one.... and if I can find one locally,I would give it VERY serious consideration ) Good luck,cant go wrong with either the 190 or 233.

14 June 2009, 01:06 AM	#15
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	190 screams heritage. 233 new and cool. 190 for me. Rolex has Panerai beat in the GMT dept (for me guys, not you!) __________________ member#3242

14 June 2009, 02:03 AM	#16
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Thanks for all the thoughts guys. I do think I'll keep the 190, but I wanted to know everyones thoughts here. I plan on having both, but it's tough holding out when I can go pick up a 112 anytime. I just want the 233 to me my Luminor! __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

14 June 2009, 08:33 AM	#17
tech_controller 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Daniel Location: みな& Watch: Me Bleed... Posts: 690	233 preferred here...but the 190 isn't too far behind. I'd love to add the 190 since I already have a 233. __________________ M336934 \|126711CHNR \| 326935 \| 11613 black \| 11613 serti \| 16610 \| 116660 \| 116610LV \| 116713LN 116519 panda \| 116710LN \| 116713LB \| 116713LB diamond

14 June 2009, 08:54 AM	#18
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	The 190 just does not do it for me. I purchased the 268 instead. IMHO the 233 dot is the perfect luminor. I actually typically prefer rads but the nod goes to 233.

14 June 2009, 11:05 AM	#19
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	233 for me... __________________ Jackson

14 June 2009, 04:03 PM	#20
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	If you can buy 233 without flip your 190, that's good for you.

14 June 2009, 04:22 PM	#21
louie "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Louis Location: Earth Watch: The Beast Posts: 1,352	190 than the 233 remember the 233 is still on going production. For collectivity and investment,i say 190. __________________ " I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

14 June 2009, 05:41 PM	#22
Zed Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Watch: Panerai 186 & 233 Posts: 489	i would keep the 190 since it is so collectable.. it is also cool, 8 days with the indication at the back... i think it is (for me) the most desirable Radiomir,,, you can always satisfy your hunger with a 233 (am/pm) in years to come.. but once you let go of the 190.. its gone..

14 June 2009, 05:46 PM	#23
argee1977 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Ryan Location: England Watch: AP ROC Posts: 1,462	I'm not too sure the 190 is collectable, that's the problem with Panerai just now, every year another couple of 'collectable' models come out and dilute the whole range. __________________ PANERAI, MORE THAN A WATCH, LESS THAN A KITKAT

15 June 2009, 12:41 AM	#27
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	I would say 233 might just maintain its value or even be pricier in the future cos Panerai is phasing out the "dot" for 233. So I say grab the "dot" 233 now! __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

15 June 2009, 12:54 AM	#28
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	190 is very stable in value. Around 9k-10k.

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