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Old 23 June 2022, 10:53 AM   #1
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Help! Is this Rolex1675 legit?

Hello gentlemen,
I bought an preowned 1675 from a dealer but since it comes naked,
I am really poor at telling if it’s authentic or not, and any recommendations for leather strap or the natos? The jubilee of my DJ looks odd on my tiny wrist, although the oyster one does look better. And I feel like this GMT is my last collection, if not, I had to get rid of my old collections. I really enjoyed watch collecting journey, I was plan to keep a DJ, Omega seamaster, Breitling navitimer and my first mechanical watch purchase Tissot le Locle which brought me into the watch world. You guys taught me a lot about the watches, thank you guys and hope many years later I will login again my Rolex forum account to help the new enthusiasts or ask for another new Rolex watch! By now I have to end collecting since I am not a rich person, keep it on guys!
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Old 23 June 2022, 12:39 PM   #2
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Hello gentlemen,
I bought an preowned 1675 from a dealer but since it comes naked,
I am really poor at telling if it’s authentic or not, and any recommendations for leather strap or the natos? The jubilee of my DJ looks odd on my tiny wrist, although the oyster one does look better. And I feel like this GMT is my last collection, if not, I had to get rid of my old collections. I really enjoyed watch collecting journey, I was plan to keep a DJ, Omega seamaster, Breitling navitimer and my first mechanical watch purchase Tissot le Locle which brought me into the watch world. You guys taught me a lot about the watches, thank you guys and hope many years later I will login again my Rolex forum account to help the new enthusiasts or ask for another new Rolex watch! By now I have to end collecting since I am not a rich person, keep it on guys!
I just find the cyclops shows a bit odd, unlike the other ones online, is it possible that the cyclops has been polished?
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Old 23 June 2022, 02:06 PM   #3
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Dial looks to be a later tritium service dial, hands look like service tritium hands as well. My 1675 has 580 end links while yours has 280 end links, I think both were made for the 1675 but the 280 doesn't sit as flush against the case like the 580 does. I also find it odd that I don't see a clasp code on the clasp of the bracelet, or maybe its just not visible in your pictures.

The acrylic crystal has definitely been polished down, that's why the date looks distorted in your pictures. Anyways, I believe the mods should move this to the Vintage section if they haven't already.
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Old 23 June 2022, 02:20 PM   #4
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The photos show a few anomalies:
1: Insert looks too pristine for its age.
2: Heavy cyclops distortion.
3: Minute hand seems short.
4: Coronet above Rolex looks modern

Maybe the parts were replaced or maybe it's photo distortion. Hard to say for certain. As a buyer, you have every right to question the authenticity and do all your due diligence.

Here's a photo from Bobs Watches:
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Old 23 June 2022, 03:30 PM   #5
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Dial looks to be a later tritium service dial, hands look like service tritium hands as well. My 1675 has 580 end links while yours has 280 end links, I think both were made for the 1675 but the 280 doesn't sit as flush against the case like the 580 does. I also find it odd that I don't see a clasp code on the clasp of the bracelet, or maybe its just not visible in your pictures.

The acrylic crystal has definitely been polished down, that's why the date looks distorted in your pictures. Anyways, I believe the mods should move this to the Vintage section if they haven't already.
Thanks for the infos and I even found one of the stamps on my 7836 bracelet is blurry, look at my photo uploaded, these are the two stamps from the same side, is it a sign that it’s a fake bracelet? I don’t see any bracelet code on the clasp, I only saw the number 7836 at the end of the link
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Old 23 June 2022, 03:43 PM   #6
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The photos show a few anomalies:
1: Insert looks too pristine for its age.
2: Heavy cyclops distortion.
3: Minute hand seems short.
4: Coronet above Rolex looks modern

Maybe the parts were replaced or maybe it's photo distortion. Hard to say for certain. As a buyer, you have every right to question the authenticity and do all your due diligence.

Here's a photo from Bobs Watches:
Hello, thanks for the infos and I even found there is one stamp on the bracelet is blurry, the rest threes are okay, I have attached a photo, is that means it’s a fake bracelet? Should I return it? I paid around 12800 US for a naked watch, if it’s odd, I still have a chance to return it.
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Old 23 June 2022, 04:15 PM   #7
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Thanks for the infos and I even found one of the stamps on my 7836 bracelet is blurry, look at my photo uploaded, these are the two stamps from the same side, is it a sign that it’s a fake bracelet? I don’t see any bracelet code on the clasp, I only saw the number 7836 at the end of the link
So since it is a 7836 bracelet, from what I read, I believe there were no clasp codes for bracelets that old. So the fact that you don't see it would mean its correct for that age of bracelet. Clasp codes likely started on the later 78360 bracelet. Your bracelet says "patented and registered Swiss Made" as well as "steelinox" so I will say that it is a genuine, possibly even original to the watch.

The case is also clearly polished and no longer has its original shape and chamfers.

As for the rest of your watch, I believe everything looks genuine from the bezel, to the dial, to the hands. Although they are not the original parts. They were all likely replaced sometime during a service. If that's fine with you and you don't care about originality, I would just enjoy the watch.
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Old 23 June 2022, 04:24 PM   #8
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So since it is a 7836 bracelet, from what I read, I believe there were no clasp codes for bracelets that old. So the fact that you don't see it would mean its correct for that age of bracelet. Clasp codes likely started on the later 78360 bracelet.

As for the rest of your watch, I believe everything looks genuine from the bezel, to the dial, to the hands. Although they are not the original parts. They were all likely replaced sometime during a service. If that's fine with you and you don't care about originality, I would just enjoy the watch.
Thank you, I have done my research too, there are some 7836 bracelets do not have the Codes, but how about the blurry stamp photo that I uploaded with? The rest three looks the same so I don’t think the clasps blade has been changed, cause if they change one of the blade, the back side of this stamp should be the same kind. That’s the alarm that I struggled with, like you said, if it’s genuine replaced, I am totally okay with it.
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Old 23 June 2022, 04:29 PM   #9
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Thank you, I have done my research too, there are some 7836 bracelets do not have the Codes, but how about the blurry stamp photo that I uploaded with? The rest three looks the same so I don’t think the clasps blade has been changed, cause if they change one of the blade, the back side of this stamp should be the same kind. That’s the alarm that I struggled with, like you said, if it’s genuine replaced, I am totally okay with it.
The stamp on the clasp blades appears to look fine. I made some changes to my last post hope you got to read it all. The case does look like it was polished down quite a bit, hope you don't mind that either.
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Old 23 June 2022, 04:44 PM   #10
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The stamp on the clasp blades appears to look fine. I made some changes to my last post hope you got to read it all. The case does look like it was polished down quite a bit, hope you don't mind that either.
Hello, i have read your newest post and thank you for your humble opinion. But I might got you confused, the two stamps photos aren’t the same one, the second one that it’s more clear looks legit, but the first one is the one that looks blurry and unlike the rest three other stamps. It’s like when you have a fourth baby but she looks differ from your three other kids, wow! that comes the earthquake! Sorry I might be too suspicious but I spent a lot of money on it so I can’t get to sleep now.
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